This fucker is not just constantly wrong, but it might be on purpose.
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Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
As the reader can clearly see, I provided DOCUMENTED FACTS to debunk Eddies declaration about MLK. Clearly Eddie doesn't have the maturity or intellectual honesty to concede a point. And there is NOTHING I stated about Jackson or Sharpton that's not easily fact checked. Clearly, Eddie deteriorates to troll mode when faced with facts and logic he can't deny. So much more to pity him.
You could be right, but I think it's just an amoral deviant that will parrot whatever is in fashion with left wing sociopaths at the moment. The cognitive dissonance of sniveling about 'theocracy n stuff' out of its hole in the head while ignoring the key role churches and pastors have played in American politics, especially the civil rights movement, is just a manifestation of mental illness and confusion.
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Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
First off, either learn to read carefully and comprehensively and/or stop lying. The chronology of the posts clearly shows that I refer to TAX EXEMPTIONS for clergy, and did NOT state or insinuate that Pastors and other church employees don't pay taxes on their incomes.Moron thinks Pastors and other church employees don't pay taxes on their incomes. lol another ranting hater ignorant of anything it parrots.
Tax tips for pastors: Your 2024 essential guide
As a church leader, you seek to know the needs of your congregation and community. But with this calling, there’s another complex topic that also requires a deep level of understanding: taxes. Here are some of core facts and nuances to keep in mind.www.thrivent.com
Does a pastor pay taxes, or are they exempt?
Under federal law, most ministers have dual tax status. That means you’re taxed as a W-2 employee of the church, and you’re taxed as a self-employed person for Social Security and Medicare.
For tax purposes, you’re considered a minister if:
There are some exceptions to this. For example, traveling evangelists and some interim pastors are considered independent contractors. Instead of a W-2, they receive a Form 1099-NEC from different churches where they provide services. And they file their income as self-employed.
- You’re ordained, commissioned or licensed.
- You administer sacraments or ordinances.
- You conduct religious worship.
- You have management responsibilities within a local church or religious denomination.
- Your church or denomination considers you a religious leader.
Pastors are required to make quarterly estimated tax payments. These dates are especially important to keep track of to avoid potential IRS penalties.
Secondly, let me show the reading audience what your intellectual myopia and dubious honesty left out:
- If you are an ordained member of the Clergy, you do not pay FICA taxes. However, if you have not specifically filed to be exempt from the Social Security program, you will pay Self Employment Taxes (SECA) on your personal Income Tax return on April 15th.
- Ministers are treated as a hybrid of a self-employed worker and a traditional employee for tax purposes. In most cases, the church is a tax-exempt entity. That means the church, which is the minister's employer, does not withhold income tax from the minister's wages.
- For the most part, ministers are deemed to be common-law employees of the religious organization for which they work, and thus they should receive a W-2 form. There are only a limited number of instances where a 1099-MISC may be applicable, one of which is if a minister is a traveling evangelist.
- Housing Allowance: The allowance is a tax-free income paid to a pastor to help cover the cost of buying or renting a house in the area where they serve. Many churches in the U.S. pay a housing allowance to their pastors because it lowers their taxable income from their job and saves them money on taxes, but must still pay self-employment taxes on housing allowance income.
- Ministers may deduct trips by car or public transportation. There are two methods to keep track of car expenses: recording all car expenses including how much is spent for gas, oil, repairs, car washes, and so forth, or using the standard mileage rate.
That's just for starters. Take away those little gems, and the whole field of "mega churches" and "televangelists" and the like would GREATLY diminish ...and your "legitimate" churches would take a shot in the arm.
Got that chuckles?
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Amazing how the simplicity of the OP has triggered some MAGA/Alt-Right mooks with visions of theocracy dancing in their heads.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Ever heard of Moral Majority?
lol more dissembling. Just stop saying stupid shit because your peer group is a bunch of liars and morons, and do you own research instead of just blathering out narratives you know nothing about. That way you don't just keep digging ever deeper holes and then having to post this sort of verbose spam.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Private jets and yachts yo.Moron thinks Pastors and other church employees don't pay taxes on their incomes. lol another ranting hater ignorant of anything it parrots.
Tax tips for pastors: Your 2024 essential guide
As a church leader, you seek to know the needs of your congregation and community. But with this calling, there’s another complex topic that also requires a deep level of understanding: taxes. Here are some of core facts and nuances to keep in mind.www.thrivent.com
Does a pastor pay taxes, or are they exempt?
Under federal law, most ministers have dual tax status. That means you’re taxed as a W-2 employee of the church, and you’re taxed as a self-employed person for Social Security and Medicare.
For tax purposes, you’re considered a minister if:
There are some exceptions to this. For example, traveling evangelists and some interim pastors are considered independent contractors. Instead of a W-2, they receive a Form 1099-NEC from different churches where they provide services. And they file their income as self-employed.
- You’re ordained, commissioned or licensed.
- You administer sacraments or ordinances.
- You conduct religious worship.
- You have management responsibilities within a local church or religious denomination.
- Your church or denomination considers you a religious leader.
Pastors are required to make quarterly estimated tax payments. These dates are especially important to keep track of to avoid potential IRS penalties.
And so what? Are you jealous because nobody will ever buy anything you write?
$12-$15 million dollar advances on 45 books equals what? I know math is now racist n stuff with your feral peers, so maybe you can't use a calculator.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Why would I be jealous of conmen?
Because you're hoping to be one yourself, you just suck at it. That much is obvious.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
LOL
Yes, I'm not surprised they have long term chronic mental health issues.
By design......the revolution took over the schools first....that program was well underway by the mid 80's.
There is no doubt whatever that Edwin does not have the maturity, intellectual wherewithal, or honesty to concede a point. He is a troll...plain and simple.
Give him hell!
dancindave
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dancindave
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More cross conditioned way beyond therapy suicidal super ego Christiananality pedophilia Christian Nation SCOTUS Fourth Reich July "what is 9/11 ?" Freudian slip autocomplete of Islam Mohammed Valhalla pedophilia martyrdom "death to the infidels" Islamidiotocracy.......