The difference between philosophy and religion.

Taichiliberal said:
That's your opinion, Cy. One does not have to be recognized by the "official" standards or individuals that determine expertise, genius and originality. Case in point, civilizations that existed LONG before the Greeks came on the scene had their own philosophy of life....they existed (and some still exist) all over the continent of Africa and what we now call the "middle east". Here in America, the native people who were here for a millennia had their philosophy and such. Intellectual process was evident in the verbal and written histories, architecture, way of life. By your standards, these things don't exist unless the "experts" tell you otherwise. Reality, however, could care less what the "experts" think.
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Agree. Worshipping authority is reactive.
 
BidenPresident said:
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I see it like this:

Philosophy is adaptive to life experiences and the relevant history that precedes those experiences.
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Religion does not require the input of the aforementioned. It can, however, be open to interpretation of current life. Dogma resists current life experiences.


Dogma replaces experience. You can't have experience that is not authorized by the dogma.
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So the religious fundamentalist would have you believe. But reality dictates that experiences are a constant learning experience that doesn't require dogma....this is why dogmatist are constantly at odds with what they deem as heretics, blasphemers and the basic non-believer ... that latter 3 living happy, productive lives without dogma.
 
Taichiliberal said:
So the religious fundamentalist would have you believe. But reality dictates that experiences are a constant learning experience that doesn't require dogma....this is why dogmatist are constantly at odds with what they deem as heretics, blasphemers and the basic non-believer ... that latter 3 living happy, productive lives without dogma.
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Religious zealots are the enemies of philosophy.
 
BidenPresident said:
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Including intellectual thought in your assertion is incorrect. If someone presents an analysis or observation that leads you to change your opinion or belief, that is an intellectual process on both sides. This has happened over the years.
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Cypress has no idea what philosophy is. He thinks it is the handmaiden of theology.
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I haven't reached that harsh of a conclusion, based on my initial exchange with him .... I prefer to discuss it a little more before jumping to condemnation.
 
Taichiliberal said:
I haven't reached that harsh of a conclusion, based on my initial exchange with him .... I prefer to discuss it a little more before jumping to condemnation.
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Topic of thread is philosophy. The only thing Cypress talked about is religion.

The purpose of the thread is to show why philosophy has nothing to do with religion.
 
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BidenPresident said:
Topic of thread is philosophy. The only thing Cypress talked about is religion.

The purpose of the thread is to show why philosophy has nothing to do with religion.
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You haven't the background or knowledge to hold court.


You know virtually nothing about religion, you have never read any of the premminent religious scholars, you have never shown the slightest knowledge of Confucianism, Daoism, Buddhism, Hinduism
 
BidenPresident said:
Topic of thread is philosophy. The only thing Cypress talked about is religion.

The purpose of the thread is to show why philosophy has nothing to do with religion.
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Encyclopedia Britannica - The Intersections of Philosophy and Religion

Humans have long pondered not only how we came to be but also why we came to be. The earliest Greek philosophers focused their attention upon the origin and nature of the physical world; later philosophers have theorized about the nature of knowledge, truth, good and evil, love, friendship, and much more. The realms of philosophy and religion have sometimes intersected in conducting such inquiries as these. As with philosophy, the study of religion underscores how humankind has long speculated about its origins. The possibility of a higher being (or beings) to which livings things owe their existence has long captived human thought. Many religions also offer their own views on the nature of good and evil, and they may prescribe guidelines and judgment on different kinds of human behavior.

https://www.britannica.com/browse/Philosophy-Religion
 
Cypress said:
Encyclopedia Britannica - The Intersections of Philosophy and Religion

Humans have long pondered not only how we came to be but also why we came to be. The earliest Greek philosophers focused their attention upon the origin and nature of the physical world; later philosophers have theorized about the nature of knowledge, truth, good and evil, love, friendship, and much more. The realms of philosophy and religion have sometimes intersected in conducting such inquiries as these. As with philosophy, the study of religion underscores how humankind has long speculated about its origins. The possibility of a higher being (or beings) to which livings things owe their existence has long captived human thought. Many religions also offer their own views on the nature of good and evil, and they may prescribe guidelines and judgment on different kinds of human behavior.

https://www.britannica.com/browse/Philosophy-Religion
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No philosopher today associates philosophy with religion.
 
Cypress said:
One can't really appreciate history, culture, anthropology, sociology, even philosophy without having a working knowledge of world religions.
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BidenPresident said:
False.
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Yale University, Department of History-->

"The study of history has long been connected to the history of religions. Religions have been a basic factor of human history in all places and times, and remain so in our own world today."

https://history.yale.edu/undergraduate/regions-and-pathways/religion-context
 
You've obviously never heard of Georg Hegel, Soren Kierkegaard, Augustine, or Renee Decartes, and you certainly know virtually nothing about world religions, other than attending the kiddie Sunday School you bragged about.
 
I am going with the highly regarded Encyclopedia Britannica that there is overlap in the types of metaphysical questions philosophers and religious scholars explore, over the claims of someone who's only knowledge of religion is Sunday School for kiddies.
 
Cypress said:
You've obviously never heard of Georg Hegel, Soren Kierkegaard, Augustine, or Renee Decartes, and you certainly know virtually nothing about world religions, other than attending the kiddie Sunday School you bragged about.
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You are a pathological liar. Jack was right.
 
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