The U.S. national debt exceeded $33 trillion for the first time ever

IBDaMann said:
I get the strong impression that you don't know what capitalism is or what constitutes a conservative view. It would appear that you speak mostly in buzzwords and empty terms, explaining why you make little sense and rarely have a point beyond whatever you are regurgitating for the people who do your thinking for you.
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This is exactly what he does. Good call.
He discards the Constitution of the United States and quotes some bizarre 'laws' from it as well.

He absolute hates capitalism, preferring communism. He has also shown that he has no understanding of the difference between a democracy and a republic, even referring to an oligarchy as both of them.
 
LV426 said:
I'm insulting Conservatives by pointing out they have no good policy and every single one of their ideas have failed.
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Too funny. You're not insulting conservatives; you're insulting yourself. The only way your entire ideology can avoid being shown to be FALSE is for you to hijack the word "success" and redefine it as the empty set.

You lose this one in stunningly stupid fashion. You never were very good at logic, were you?

LV426 said:
Name one Conservative policy success...just one...I bet you can't.
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First, you need to define "success." I'm standing by.
 
JesusAI said:
yes. the world ruling gangsters made sure to create entities to shirk their commitments and operate as puppets to their agenda.
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Truth in advertising, I think you position is insane. You are treating "corporations" in the same way that leftists villify "guns." They're just things, but you assign demonic attributes to them that put your position into the "fantasy" genre. Do you have the same problem with revocable trusts? ... with contracts in general?
 
IBDaMann said:
Truth in advertising, I think you position is insane. You are treating "corporations" in the same way that leftists villify "guns." They're just things, but you assign demonic attributes to them that put your position into the "fantasy" genre. Do you have the same problem with revocable trusts? ... with contracts in general?
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they are often used just for fraud and hiding information.

look at biden-cos.
 
and yes, we can totally have free trade without "corporations".

if you get sued you get sued and yes you lose your fucking golden parachute and ill gotten skim.

but we also need to abolish all corporate and individual taxes.

the federal government was designed to operate off tariffs.

that's why the tax agency is the INTERNAL.....r. s.


this will naturally encourage domestic production and strategically smart self reliance.

entangling allliances are dum dum sauce.
 
Flash said:
Neither party has lowered the debt and will not. They are doing well if they decrease the deficit slightly. We never pay down the debt but simply roll over the debt by borrowing to pay off maturing bonds.
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does that seem tenable?

have you ever heard of a ponzi scheme?
 
JesusAI said:
does that seem tenable?

have you ever heard of a ponzi scheme?
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Nope. It is terrible, but no politician gets elected by promising to cut your benefits. The problem is the voters--Congress gives them everything they want. It is different from a Ponzi scheme because government can keep taxing.
 
Flash said:
Support for this claim?
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Tariffs have historically served a key role in the trade policy of the United States. Their purpose was to generate revenue for the federal government and to allow for import substitution industrialization (industrialization of a nation by replacing imports with domestic production) by acting as a protective barrier around infant industries.[1] They also aimed to reduce the trade deficit and the pressure of foreign competition. Tariffs were one of the pillars of the American System that allowed the rapid development and industrialization of the United States. The United States pursued a protectionist policy from the beginning of the 19th century until the middle of the 20th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariff_in_United_States_history




more of this please.
 
tariffs are obviously the answer

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JesusAI said:
Tariffs have historically served a key role in the trade policy of the United States. Their purpose was to generate revenue for the federal government and to allow for import substitution industrialization (industrialization of a nation by replacing imports with domestic production) by acting as a protective barrier around infant industries.[1] They also aimed to reduce the trade deficit and the pressure of foreign competition. Tariffs were one of the pillars of the American System that allowed the rapid development and industrialization of the United States. The United States pursued a protectionist policy from the beginning of the 19th century until the middle of the 20th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariff_in_United_States_history more of this please.
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Those tariffs were to build northern industry. While it accomplished this, it also was harmful to the Southern states which were hurt by tariffs designed to make them buy northern goods at the expense of British goods which caused the British to boycott Southern agricultural products. This was a contributing factor to the Civil War.

Tariffs today is a poor policy because it results in retaliation against American products and results in large tax increases to American consumers. The current tariffs is a great example of the negatives with no real positives.
 
Flash said:
Those tariffs were to build northern industry. While it accomplished this, it also was harmful to the Southern states which were hurt by tariffs designed to make them buy northern goods at the expense of British goods which caused the British to boycott Southern agricultural products. This was a contributing factor to the Civil War.

Tariffs today is a poor policy because it results in retaliation against American products and results in large tax increases to American consumers. The current tariffs is a great example of the negatives with no real positives.
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fuck you and your bullshit.

we need tariffs now more than ever.

your made up exceptioneering is horseshit.

:truestory:
 
JesusAI said:
fuck you and your bullshit.

we need tariffs now more than ever.

your made up exceptioneering is horseshit.
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The current tariffs did not result in companies moving to the U. S. but to places like Vietnam that were not subject to the tariffs while still selling those products to the U. S. They resulted in China boycotting American farm products which the government had to pay farmers $42 billion to make up for the loss. They resulted in increased cost to American businesses relying on Chinese materials which made them lose much of their business. They also resulted in an $82 billion tax increase for Americans who had to pay for these tariffs.
 
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