The U.S. national debt exceeded $33 trillion for the first time ever

[Kamala Trump]

The current tariffs did not result in companies moving to the U. S. but to places like Vietnam that were not subject to the tariffs while still selling those products to the U. S. They resulted in China boycotting American farm products which the government had to pay farmers $42 billion to make up for the loss. They resulted in increased cost to American businesses relying on Chinese materials which made them lose much of their business. They also resulted in an $82 billion tax increase for Americans who had to pay for these tariffs.

we need tariffs on the new vietnam companies then.

or just general tariffs on all items in important sectors, like defense, pharma, hi tech, steel, food..

actual important stuff.

your myopic internationalist fascist globalism will not serve you well going forward.

as it turns out, globalists are idiotic cretins.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Thirty-three trillion?

Actually, my personal numbers look ok.

I won't start worrying yet.

 

[Flash]

The federal budget IS A BILL.

In order for a bill to become law, it must pass through Congress and then is signed by the President.

This is something you should have learned when you were a child but didn't because you were homeschooled by stupid people.

See the Federal Budget and Accounting Act of 1921 which made the president responsible for preparing and presenting the budget.

"[FONT=source_sans_proregular]The Budget and Accounting Act of 1921 gave the President overall responsibility for budget planning by requiring him to submit an annual, comprehensive budget proposal to the Congress; that act also expanded the President’s control over budgetary information by establishing the Bureau of the Budget (renamed the Office of Management and Budget in 1971). By contrast, the Congress lacked institutional capacity to establish and enforce budgetary priorities, coordinate actions on spending and revenue legislation, or develop budgetary and economic information independently of the executive branch."

[/FONT]https://www.cbo.gov/about/history#:~:text=The%20Budget%20and%20Accounting%20Act,the%20Budget%20(renamed%20the%20Office

 

[LV426]

that's a blight on neocons forever.

It's a blight on you.

Everything you are describing is the result of YOUR beliefs.

 

[LV426]

think bigger picture, fuckwhistle..

It doesn't get any bigger picture than having to spend $30B to bail out a bunch of fucking morons.

it's definitely about maintaining food production capacity.

No, it isn't you stupid idiot, it's about selling crops that have already been grown.

If you think its about something else you're being lied to.

You are just saying words because you don't know what you're talking about.

It's just unintelligible babble....it's like you're regressing the farther you fall into having defend the stupid things you believe.

 

[Hawkeye10]

It will be $34 trillion soon.....currently at $33.7 according to the debt clock.

America is in its last bender...the wake up will be brutal.

 

[LV426]

I get the strong impression that you don't know what capitalism is or what constitutes a conservative view.

Conservatives didn't invent capitalism, but every time they get power they end up fucking everything up.

A Conservative worldview is to stand athwart history, yelling stop.

That's it. No policies that work, no ideas that are good. Just failure after failure. And you have failed so much that you now have to regress on your own primary education rather than admit you're full of shit.

Pathetic.

It would appear that you speak mostly in buzzwords and empty terms, explaining why you make little sense and rarely have a point beyond whatever you are regurgitating for the people who do your thinking for you.

Switching between your socks is one of the most pathetic and desperate strategies ever used on a message board.

It's waving the white flag; surrendering that you have no good ideas in that empty head of yours, so you just pretend to be a different person that happens to validate all the dumb things you've said under your other socks.

It's pathetic.

Not one single Conservative policy success.

You can't even manage capitalism, you fuck it all up just like you fucked it up before COVID, ending the longest job creation streak ever and the longest ever Bull market.

Conservatives are fucking stupid, and that's why the economy always collapses when they get power.

ALWAYS.

 

[LV426]

You just did.

No I didn't. Stop stalling and make the connection, because it doesn't exist. You lied because you don't know what you're talking about but you need to save face for whatever stupid reason.

 

[LV426]

Blatant lie.

Not once have Conservatives ever managed an economy well for more than a period of 4 years.

Every single Conservative President has left behind a stinking wreckage in their wake because they are stupid people.

You are a stupid person, that's why none of your policies succeed, so you just have to take crefdit for things you know nothing about. For example, capitalism...you sure don't seem to believe in it since you go around ruining economies every chance you get.

Not one single Conservative economy exists because they all fail, every time.

Guaranteed.

 

[LV426]

RQAA

Stalling again because you opened your fat mouth.

You say we are a REpUbLiC...OK, what does that mean?

Oh right, you're just gonna stall because you don't know what you're talking about and that's the only tactic of yours that seems to work.

 

[LV426]

RQAA

No, you're lying again because you have never explained this. I even searched your posts, so you can't pretend you've given an answer when you haven't.

All you've done is lie...but that's all you can do because everything you believe is utter shit. That's why you can't even name one single merit of Conservatism. Not one. It always fails. Just like Trump failed.

 

[LV426]

That is define in the constitution.

So they are chosen by a majority of the citizens voting for them in a race, which you just said in an earlier post was small-d democratic.

So when you said that the US is a Republic, not a democracy, that's like saying you have a chihuahua, not a dog.

You people are not nearly as clever as you want everyone to think.

This is pretty lazy shit here.

 

[LV426]

I am not a Democrat.

No, you're a fascist who spread lies about a stolen election for two months but then hid out here on JPP the one day you could have done something about it.

So you're either full of shit, or you're a coward.

 

[LV426]

I don't participate in Democrat induced riots.

Induced by you spreading lies about a stolen election for two months on JPP...which you did.

But then when the time came to actually do something about it, you hid out here on JPP.

Why? Obviously it wasn't organized by Democrats since you were one of the people on JPP spreading Trump's lies about a stolen election.

 

[LV426]

It is not 'more complicated' at all. Complexity fallacy. An oligarchy is a dictatorship by committee.

Now you're just making up fallacies because you opened your big mouth again and said something dumb.

No, an oligarchy is an economic system where capos and cartels control certain sectors of the economy.

Who taught you economics? No one, it seems.

 

[LV426]

Blatant lie. A democracy has no constitution and no representatives. A republic has both.

It's the same thing, genius. It's like saying you have a Husky, not a dog. You just admitted that a Republic is organized by a democratic vote.

Do you read your posts before you click reply?

 

[LV426]

I realize you discard the Constitution of the United States, but you should actually try to read it.

You should read it because the government of this Republic is organized vis-a-vis a majority democratic vote.

As in, a majority vote for representatives.

A Republic and a democracy are the same thing and you just proved it with your erratic posts.

 

[LV426]

So?

So your argument has no point.

Inversion fallacy.

Well, you're the one who doesn't seem to remember what you say from post to post.

Organize your thoughts better and you won't find yourself in this awkward position of having to stall and panic so often.

Hallucination. I have not repealed any institution.

But I thought you said that was one of your policies...doing away with institutions. So, you haven't done that then. No Conservative has because that's not a policy.

Once again, we end up right back at square one...with no Conservative merits to speak of anywhere.

I am not government.

You're right, you're a sophist. A pretty sad one.

 

[LV426]

They don't need to.

And this is the heart of it.

Conservatives have completely given up on any policy ideas because every time they have tried to come up with one in the past, it's failed.

So their new policy seems to be "no policy" because every time they get in there and do their ideas, they break something.

I get why the crux of your policy is nothing; you have no good ideas.

 

[LV426]

Capitalism does not require a 'bailout'. Ever.

Capitalism has needed three bailouts in the last 33 years. Each time when a Conservative was President.

Capitalism is not 'managed'. Ever.

Capitalism can only be managed because without it, we get what happened when you were last in charge; an economic collapse. The reason is because Conservatives just don't have any good ideas.

The current economic depression was started by Democrats.

MANTRA ALERT! So your habit is to just do all the things you accuse others of doing because you have no good ideas.

Try English. It works better. The Washington Compost is not an authoritative reference. False authority fallacy.

Oh, then show me your source for manufacturing growth in 2019.