Trump asks for classified documents trial to take place after 2024 election

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signalmankenneth

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Ex-president’s lawyers made clear their preference and intentions to delay proceedings as they opposed December trial date

If that Trump appointed judge Cannon goes along with this, Jack Smith will take it to the appeals court, there no reason to delay this trial either?!!

Donald Trump asked the federal judge overseeing the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case to indefinitely postpone setting a trial date in court filings on Monday and suggested, at a minimum, that any scheduled trial should not take place until after the 2024 presidential election.

The papers submitted by Trump’s lawyers in response to the US justice department’s motion to hold the trial this December made clear the former president’s aim to delay proceedings as their guiding strategy – the case may be dropped if Trump wins the election.

Trump’s lawyers essentially argued in the 12-page court filing to US district court judge Aileen Cannon in Florida that she should not bother setting a tentative trial date until the major pre-trial motions were finished because they could not know how long the discovery process might take.

“The court should, respectfully, before establishing any trial date, allow time for development of further clarity as to the full nature and scope of the motions that will be filed,” the filing said.

Trump was charged with retention of national defense information, including US nuclear secrets and plans for US retaliation in the event of an attack, which means his case will be tried under the rules laid out in the Classified Information Procedures Act, or Cipa.

Cipa provides a mechanism for the government to charge cases involving classified documents without risking the “graymail” problem, where the defense threatens to reveal classified information at trial, but the steps that have to be followed mean it takes longer to get to trial.

The process includes the government turning over all of the classified information they want to use to the defense in discovery, like any other criminal case, in addition to the non-classified discovery that is done in a separate process.

Trump’s lawyers argued the amount of discovery – the government is making the material available in batches because there is so much evidence and it has not finished processing everything that came from search warrants – meant that they could not know how long the process would take.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/11/trump-classified-documents-trial-after-2024-election
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So you want the trial to start before the discovery process is completed?

That right there is an easy dismissal of the case on appeal.

Let's hope the court breaks the law here.

Every accused person is entitled to a proper defense which involves the discovery process and considering the amount of information involved in this it will take a long time to sort through.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
So you want the trial to start before the discovery process is completed?

That right there is an easy dismissal of the case on appeal.

Let's hope the court breaks the law here.

Every accused person is entitled to a proper defense which involves the discovery process and considering the amount of information involved in this it will take a long time to sort through.
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Discovery could be complete in three weeks if the judge made it a priority
 
Tinkerpeach said:
So you want the trial to start before the discovery process is completed?

That right there is an easy dismissal of the case on appeal.

Let's hope the court breaks the law here.

Every accused person is entitled to a proper defense which involves the discovery process and considering the amount of information involved in this it will take a long time to sort through.
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Discovery's already been done, dumbass. That's why the grand jury recommended charges be filed. Some of it (the classified materials your #MangoMessiah stole) must be redacted before being given to #TRE45ON's legal team for obvious reasons, but other than that, everything they have has been or will be given to the defense team.

Looks like you've realized that the only thing that's going to save the fat bloated orange moron is "the court breaking the law." lol
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Discovery's already been done, dumbass. That's why the grand jury recommended charges be filed. Some of it (the classified materials your #MangoMessiah stole) must be redacted before being given to #TRE45ON's legal team for obvious reasons, but other than that, everything they have has been or will be given to the defense team.

Looks like you've realized that the only thing that's going to save the fat bloated orange moron is "the court breaking the law." lol
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You have no idea what the discovery process is if you think it's been done already.

I doubt it's even been started yet.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
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You truly are an idiot.
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"Discovery's already been done, dumbass. That's why the grand jury recommended charges be filed. Some of it (the classified materials your #MangoMessiah stole) must be redacted before being given to #TRE45ON's legal team for obvious reasons, but other than that, everything they have has been or will be given to the defense team."


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ThatOwlWoman said:
"Discovery's already been done, dumbass. That's why the grand jury recommended charges be filed. Some of it (the classified materials your #MangoMessiah stole) must be redacted before being given to #TRE45ON's legal team for obvious reasons, but other than that, everything they have has been or will be given to the defense team."


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No, discovery is what the prosecution and defense will actually use during the trial.

However that doesn't matter because first you said it was done then you asked me to show you where you said it was done proving you are an idiot that can't remember what she writes a couple posts ago.

Also, if discovery was done why would the defense ask to postpone the trial until discovery is done if it was done already?

Why didn't the judge just tell them that discovery was already done.

You get dumber by the second.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
You have no idea what the discovery process is if you think it's been done already.

I doubt it's even been started yet.
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That's because you don't pay attention. I suppose because you are lazy and stupid. The bulk of the grand jury testimony, including the tapes of Trump showing people classified war plans, has already been provided to the defense. Jack Smith is providing everything without even being asked to. Maybe you should watch the news so you don't post here and look like a fucking moron. I know this is falling on deaf ears, but I'll keep trying. There is no excuse for your sloth.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
No, discovery is what the prosecution and defense will actually use during the trial.

However that doesn't matter because first you said it was done then you asked me to show you where you said it was done proving you are an idiot that can't remember what she writes a couple posts ago.

Also, if discovery was done why would the defense ask to postpone the trial until discovery is done if it was done already?

Why didn't the judge just tell them that discovery was already done.

You get dumber by the second.
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No trial EVER starts before discovery is done. Talk about stupid. That was not the reason for the request that the trial be postponed indefinitely. Again, if you weren't so fucking lazy you would already know that.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
So you want the trial to start before the discovery process is completed?

That right there is an easy dismissal of the case on appeal.

Let's hope the court breaks the law here.

Every accused person is entitled to a proper defense which involves the discovery process and considering the amount of information involved in this it will take a long time to sort through.
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You so desperately want the trial to take place after the next election. It aint gonna happen.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
No, discovery is what the prosecution and defense will actually use during the trial.

However that doesn't matter because first you said it was done then you asked me to show you where you said it was done proving you are an idiot that can't remember what she writes a couple posts ago.

Also, if discovery was done why would the defense ask to postpone the trial until discovery is done if it was done already?

Why didn't the judge just tell them that discovery was already done.

You get dumber by the second.
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As you know, the defense will offer up any and all excuses to postpone the trial as long as possible. Thats exactly what you want.
 
is there someone who did not think Trump would try that? If he gets back in office he has a 4 yr free ride to crime some more and he can self-pardon for all the evil and criminal acts he has done.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
So you want the trial to start before the discovery process is completed?

That right there is an easy dismissal of the case on appeal.

Let's hope the court breaks the law here.

Every accused person is entitled to a proper defense which involves the discovery process and considering the amount of information involved in this it will take a long time to sort through.
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You think it's going to take another 18 months for discovery?

trump should be invoking his 6th Amendment rights, not delay delay delay.
 
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