WHO MAKES THE CORRECTION??
"we the people" thru vigorous debate -not some remote corp.
Twitter is now interfering in the 2020 Presidential Election
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"we the people" thru vigorous debate -not some remote corp.
BartenderElite
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That's where it is NOT a public square, when individuals could face off against each other & have equal debate.
If Trump posts an unfounded conspiracy theory on his twitter, an individual who counters that as one of the hundreds of "reply" comments is nowhere near equal footing in terms of visibility and impact.
everyone has access/ well written posts go viral.
You are getting into the same argument that gave us Citizens United -it is impossible to fairly regulate political speech
Campaign financing clearly give those with more money more "speech" but the remedy is odious and unevenly done
so SCOTUS has said until their is a fair remedy across the board it's better to allow all speech
even with those who can buy more media.
And the thing here is ANYONE can get followers -without money
BartenderElite
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If the public square analogy doesn't work, it doesn't work. No qualifiers allowed.
Bottom line, and back to the start: it's a private enterprise. It doesn't belong to the public. They're well within their rights to label falsehoods as falsehoods.
They all have the same reach. You are conflating reach with traffic. Twitter is more successful than other platforms when it comes to traffic, but they all have the exact same reach because they're all on the same internet.
No they're not. They are privately-owned platforms and they can do whatever they want.
Trump isn't being censored. He can still tweet his lies. And wouldn't it be Twitter's right to free speech to add their factcheck to his tweets?
I think you know what Fingers Biden did with his fingers, Trumper.
So, to sum up, you are on board with what you call the 'public square' of Twitter being used by a political candidate to lie and defame without any repercussions? Should we abandon libel and slander laws as well? You good with that? If I decide I want to call Melanie a transvestite prostitute and heroin addict and Trump is a pimp you think that's free speech even on a private platform. You would be okay with the DNC tweeting that out on Twitter. Me? Not so much. BECAUSE we've allowed that, we have given Trump's alternative facts the same marketplace as actual facts. I think a private entity has every right to say no to that.
^willingly throwing away the right to make unfettered political speech. Your bottom line is worthless.
you are saying a private platform can censor (and making an attachment to a post/Tweet is imposing censorship as well) solely because it's private?
You completely ignore the FUNCTION of social media -it's not to be run to a corps desires
it's to function as a public square for all political speech.
Social media is acting as a political cop and it needs to be regulated otherwise
false construct
DNC should be able to say what it wants - but there are laws against liable and slander n particular
So, claiming without evidence that a former US Congressman committed murder is actionable? Would you agree?
the laws against public officials/the press are almost impossible to enforce.
Much better to debunk them
I didn't ask that. I asked if you believe that accusing a former US Congressman of murder with no evidence is actionable. It's a yes or no question. The point is that there is no stopping the flow of verbal diarrhea coming from Trump, and fact checking is impossible because of the volume. And what Twitter is doing is DEBUNKING THEM.
I gave you the answer you didn't want to hear re: "actionable".
It's not up to Twitter to debunk as i've laid out post after post -Twitter needs to allow un-fettered free speech
That's the American way. argue it out, do not impose censorship under the guise of fact checking
Well, Twitter decided that it was up to Twitter to debunk. Tough. Isn't it fun to defend a guy who accused a former Congressman of murder with no evidence? You must be so proud of your Dear Leader.
talking in circles -truly you are a closed mind and a waste of time.
you completely ignore American traditions and the First for simplistic "Twitter is private"
And you are running away from Trumps defamation like your hair is on fire. Enough said.
Government can't ban people from the public square.
Public officials are the government.
Government officials can't ban people from their accounts because that would be the government banning people from speaking out.
Private companies are not the government. They are free to ban whoever they want. They are especially free to ban people that open them up to lawsuits. Government can't force them to allow posts that would get them sued.
I already answered. not running from anything. I gave the remedy as well. "fact checking" is not free from bias either (especially political fact checking with multiple p.o.v's)