Yet Socrates was a accused of being an atheist, or believing in the wrong gods. The idea of an immortal soul may not itself be a form of religious belief, but it seems so today.
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Again, I'm surprised at your lack of precision in language. Very interesting for someone who claims to have a lot of philosophy under their belt.
I agree, you are an agnostic. good for you.
Like whatever I feel applies.
I think you are bullshitting all of us. I think ALL so-called "weak atheists" are bullshitting. They are people who, if a descriptor must be used, closer to being agnostics than atheists.
That is why you are not thoroughly setting out your take on this issue.
Blasphemy? From a supposed atheist?
Gimme a break!
And since you seem always to use "God"...tell us...
...what you mean when you use "God"...
...why you do not use "gods"...
...and why you do not actually set out your take on the issue of whether or not at least one god exists or not...PLAINLY, CLEARLY, AND THOROUGHLY.
You are able to do that...right?
I have, and will continue to be, a hell of a lot more precise in my language on this issue than you.
I am more precise in my language than you. I stick with vatiations of "my take is an agnostic one" rather than "I am an agnostic."
For those of you who cannot be that precise...I'll accept what you say and translate it into what you mean.
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Except I've shown you that it is not simply made up. You can verify it if you actually hit up philosophy references as well.
It is, by definition, blasphemy. I didn't say I was offended. I am just surprised at someone who thinks there's at least a POSSIBILITY God exists would then blaspheme.
This question has you wrapped up. I honestly don't know why it is so important. I suspect it is a bit of plaque in your brain that makes you think it is somehow "meaningful".
I believe that the likelihood that one god exists is equal to the likelihood that many gods exist which is ZERO.
Now take your Abilify.
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As you wish.
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As you wish.
There is an old story that one day, the wife of Noah Webster came home unexpectedly and discovered him in a compromising position with the upstairs maid.
She was shocked and loudly proclaimed, "I am surprised."
Noah summoned up the lexicographer part of himself and replied, "My dear, you are astonished. It is I who am surprised."
Noah would tell you that your use of "surprised" in your admonishment of me on language precision... is not precise.
Don't fuck with me on language. You are not up to the job.
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LOL. Sure, sure. More of that ego you seem to suffer from.
I realize that atheists have hijacked the agnostic position and claim a weak-atheistis position.
That is only for atheists without the balls to acknowledge their agnosticism. Who want the world to call them atheists because they think that makes them look strong.
They look like idiots.
Ahhh..."surprised" again.
Well...I do not know if any gods exist or not. But you seem to think that the only god that could exist...is one that could be offended by something a human says.
Interesting.
No you don't. You thought this bullshit up as an insult.
You really ought not to lie so often. Live with what you actually feel. You'll be a better person.
So you think there is no likelihood that a GOD exists.
Yet you are trying to pull off the weak-headed atheist schtick.
C'mon!
Perhaps you should take yours. I don't use the stuff...or anything like it.
No need for me.
I'm not suffering from it. Bit you seem to be suffering quite a bit.
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Glad you find that funny. See...now we are both enjoying ourselves in this discussion.
A win/win situation.
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Normally I wouldn't find an older person clearly suffering from the loss of a few (dozen) steps due to age funny, but you are a special case.
I suspect you will discover just what "a special case" I am!
Hey...let's have fun along the way to your discovery.
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I don't care to "discover" anything more about you than I already know. For instance you are lying about having philosophy classes for one! I can tell by the way you post and the points you prefer to focus on.
The school required tons of philosophy classes and I enjoyed them. It was over 60 years ago, so I acknowledge that I have lost a lot of it. But I am keeping up with the childish stuff you are trying here.. You are making it easy for me.I don't care to "discover" anything more about you than I already know. For instance you are lying about having philosophy classes for one! I can tell by the way you post and the points you prefer to focus on.
Atheist!
What a laugh that is.
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Too bad you didn't remember any of it.
No shit.
In your imagination, Gramps
I allowed you to be an agnostic. I see you never learned the Golden Rule.
You could really use some basic education in values and ethics.