Why do people obsess over abortion?

[Into the Night]

They are not human beings. They are blastomas, of which a part could possibly become people. Do you give them social security numbers? They are not recognized as people. Saying they are people is dishonest, which suits your argument style perfectly.

They are human beings. They will not become a chicken, a dog, or a pig. Why do you want to murder children?

 

[Into the Night]

The collection of JPP trumpanzee freaks serves as Exhibit One
for what can happen when we don't have enough abortions.

Kill them in the womb, eh? Did you know babies don't have politics? You're sick.

War mongering.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

And you prove you are so stipid you cannot read.


- God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16).
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1) the portion you are discussing isn't about Israel, but about its enemies.....
2) you've changed the words, then criticized what you pretend they are....
3) the line you changed is actually Hosea's words, questioning God.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

It is undeniable the bible has countless references to numerous ways mothers babies are aborted by god directly

and yet, I have denied it and you can't find a single reference to prove you right without making up your own words and substituting them for scripture.......you're a fucking idiot...../

 

[Celticguy]

That one likes bein ignrent

he thinks philosophy matters

 

[PostmodernProphet]

They are not human beings. They are blastomas, of which a part could possibly become people. Do you give them social security numbers? They are not recognized as people. Saying they are people is dishonest, which suits your argument style perfectly.

no.....they are human beings......you are not......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Science is your religion.

to be fair, that isn't credible.......someone who worshipped science would not be this ignorant of biology....

 

[QP!]

Science is your religion. I didn't say you were a scientologist. You cant even read.

You force your religion on me so I turnabout is fair play. Don't like it? I wish I cared.

You people clearly dont even follow the tenets of your own religion unless it suits your mood is expedient to do so like phony baloney tony did with covid. Please stop your drama queenery

You are the one who needs help reading. I never said you said i was a Scientologist. I was making the point that while you are free to follow Christianity or Scientology or any of the whacky religions, and that is your right, you have no right to say I must follow any religions teachings.

Just as someone like me would never tell you, you have to utilize abortion or any of the other things i might do. Nothing i do is forced on you, so you can take that bullshit lie elsewhere.

Religious people taking the position that gay people getting married, or a trans show being allowed to happen, or a woman getting an abortion is something 'done forced on them' is just a lie and bullshit.

 

[QP!]

1) the portion you are discussing isn't about Israel, but about its enemies.....
2) you've changed the words, then criticized what you pretend they are....
3) the line you changed is actually Hosea's words, questioning God.....

Funny how you ignore so many to try to nitpik one you thinks helps you.

That is a big fail. There are countless times God commands the killing women and the babies within their womb. Checkmate you lose. Again.

 

[QP!]

and yet, I have denied it and you can't find a single reference to prove you right without making up your own words and substituting them for scripture.......you're a fucking idiot...../

And yet i do. Countless examples.

Numbers 5:11-21

The Test for an Unfaithful Wife

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

God is eager to get in there and do the abortion whenever a woman has been found to have cheated.

 

[Nordberg]

Kill them in the womb, eh? Did you know babies don't have politics? You're sick.

War mongering.

Provide your address to the clinics so people who cannot afford or are not able to handle a kid can drop them off. You will solve the problems that make people see abortion as the best alternative for them. You should organize a huge fund funded by pro-birthers and pay for those who cannot afford a baby. Then more will have them and abortion will be diminished.
Your hypocrisy is showing. You want to dump the results of your beliefs on others. Then you can pat yourself on the back as a 13 year old girl has problems to solve.

 

[Into the Night]

he thinks philosophy matters

It does.

 

[Into the Night]

You are the one who needs help reading. I never said you said i was a Scientologist.

You need help reading. He never made any such statement.

I was making the point that while you are free to follow Christianity or Scientology or any of the whacky religions, and that is your right, you have no right to say I must follow any religions teachings.

You do follow religions though.

Just as someone like me would never tell you, you have to utilize abortion or any of the other things i might do. Nothing i do is forced on you, so you can take that bullshit lie elsewhere.

Abortion is murder for convenience. You are forcing your will upon another.

Religious people taking the position that gay people getting married,

Not possible. Homosexual activity cannot result in reproduction.

or a trans show being allowed to happen,

Not in front of children, you don't!

or a woman getting an abortion is something 'done forced on them'

Abortion if murder for convenience. The child dies, because of another's will.

is just a lie and bullshit.

Inversion fallacy. You are describing yourself again.

 

[Into the Night]

Funny how you ignore so many to try to nitpik one you thinks helps you.

That is a big fail. There are countless times God commands the killing women and the babies within their womb. Checkmate you lose. Again.

Never. Stop making shit up. Stop trying to speak for God.

 

[Into the Night]

The difference being that we are NOT trying to force anything on the American citizen's private life in this regard .... you are.

Remember, she said she'll defend your right to worship as you please and make choices...but your religious views do NOT supersede the Constitutional right against a nationally mandated religion. Deal with it.

Paradox. You WANT a nationally mandated religion. You want the Church of Global Warming, the Church of Green, the Church of the Ozone Hole, the Church of Covid, and the Church of Perversion to be nationally mandated religions.

 

[Into the Night]

'Citizen' was not my word. I was responding to his.

Here is the thing you fail to understand. Religious people have a right to believe what they want and that is fine. They can believe in Xenu and thetans or even more laughably an immaculate conception and birth and that is fine.

But when that group tries to force others to conform to their beliefs, instead of just following them, themselves, that is WRONG.

Every Christian or Fundamentalist of any stripe would agree if it was another religion like the Muslim religion or Scientology religion being forced on them but the minute they can force their religion on others, they do. They try to seize the mechanism of law to do so and that is WRONG. Just as they would say it would be wrong if others religion was forced on them.

So NO, your position is a false one. I am not pissy about you following your beliefs, and living your life to your beliefs, but it is WRONG, to try and use government to force others to live as if a part of your religion and belief systems.

Science DOES NOT agree with how you religious people define 'life' or 'thetans' or 'immaculate conception' and thus while the religious can follow and accept those things, the rest of us SHOULD NOT be forced to. That is WRONG.

Science has no position on religion at all.

 

[Into the Night]

And yet i do. Countless examples.




God is eager to get in there and do the abortion whenever a woman has been found to have cheated.

You are again changing words in scripture. You are lying yet again.

 

[Into the Night]

Provide your address to the clinics so people who cannot afford or are not able to handle a kid can drop them off. You will solve the problems that make people see abortion as the best alternative for them. You should organize a huge fund funded by pro-birthers and pay for those who cannot afford a baby. Then more will have them and abortion will be diminished.
Your hypocrisy is showing. You want to dump the results of your beliefs on others. Then you can pat yourself on the back as a 13 year old girl has problems to solve.

Murder is never the best choice.

 

[Celticguy]

It does.

Its interesting but behavior matters.

 

[Into the Night]

Its interesting but behavior matters.

Random words. No apparent coherency.