Why is educating about Tubman bad?

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Cypress said:
David Farragut was a southerner who remained loyal to the United States, became the Union's most famous naval admiral, and was responsible for recapturing New Orleans from the Confederate rebels.

There should be at least as many monuments in the South of Admiral Farragat as there are of General Lee.
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Obviously I'm not a Southerner, but is it possible that they consider him a "traitor" to the Confederacy/the South?
 
Phantasmal said:
Jeebus, “they were men of their times” doesn’t hold water in the argument for monuments being erected during Jim Crow, and men being traitors to the United States who warred against their country?

I don’t respect Jefferson since I found out he was a slave owner and a rapist. I also lost respect for Lincoln and LBJ when I found out they were racists.

They had other accomplishments to memorialize.

Tell me what Lee, a man who betrayed his country and warred against it did for America that should be memorialized?
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Besides, you democrats never change.

You're STILL fighting to keep slavery.

Illegal aliens are the new slaves, and you're just as dedicated to keeping them in the fields as those earlier democrats were to keep blacks...
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Obviously I'm not a Southerner, but is it possible that they consider him a "traitor" to the Confederacy/the South?
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They shouldn't. In the 21st century, southerners general claim to be the most loyal patriots to the United States.

Native southerner Admiral David Farragut remained fiercely loyal to the United States. And everyone knows who he is, even if they don't realize it. He uttered the most famous sentence of any military commander in the civil war:

"Damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead!". :laugh:
 
Cypress said:
David Farragut was a southerner who remained loyal to the United States, became the Union's most famous naval admiral, and was responsible for recapturing New Orleans from the Confederate rebels.

There should be at least as many monuments in the South of Admiral Farragat as there are of General Lee.
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Farragut lived in New York. He was born in Virginia, but was a New Yorker at the time of the Civil War.

en.wikipedia.org

David Farragut - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

You just make shit up.
 
Cypress said:
David Farragut was a southerner who remained loyal to the United States, became the Union's most famous naval admiral, and was responsible for recapturing New Orleans from the Confederate rebels.

There should be at least as many monuments in the South of Admiral Farragat as there are of General Lee.
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Agreed. Why do you think there aren't?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Obviously I'm not a Southerner, but is it possible that they consider him a "traitor" to the Confederacy/the South?
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IDK, but that's why I push understanding the context of history. It's been 160 years and, as this thread proves, we're still fighting the Civil War. It's a festering wound which has only been aggravated by tearing down the monuments across the South.

Now, our nation is doing the opposite of George Santayana's advice about history. As a society, we've destroyed the monuments, replaced them with grass and, as the current Federal government proves, we are repeating the past.
 
Cypress said:

The Southern generals who stayed loyal to the Union in the Civil War​


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Pay Walled.

Those serving in the United States Military at the time the democrats rose up against the government had to choose between their career and what they had sworn loyalty to and the democrat war to keep slaves.

A couple dozen military officers is not a "significant portion" of the 30 million people in the South at the time. You are trying to create a fiction that the democrats in the South were split - they were not.

democrats then, as democrats now, were traitorous bastards fighting to keep black/illegal alien slaves.
 
Cypress said:
I specifically said he was a Native southerner for the benefit of the frantic Googlers of the forum.

Professional military men don't get to choose where they serve.
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You specifically said "There were a significant number of white southerners who remained loyal to the United States,"

That is a fabrication on your part.

There were a few military professionals who remained loyal to the United States.
 
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