Yeah, you are right. We should be mean to conservatives, liberals, gays, Muslims, immigrants....Make them all feel bad about themselves. Who wants a loving, tolerant society? Only the weak.
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Yeah, you are right. We should be mean to conservatives, liberals, gays, Muslims, immigrants....Make them all feel bad about themselves. Who wants a loving, tolerant society? Only the weak.
The forum is not government and can restrict any speech it chooses--that is not irony.
There is a big difference between posting on a forum that allows people to insult and curse at others and a person in public. Posters voluntarily put themselves in the position to be attacked (social consequences?).
My remarks to "shut up" means allow both liberals and conservatives to spread lies, bad faith, and bullshit. I notice you are only concerned about conservative lies but apparently don't care about liberal lies and bs. I have argued with many conservatives when I think they are factually wrong.
But a person wearing a BLL t-shirt in public should not have somebody attack, yell, or insult them. If you think that accomplishes anything you are very naive and lack basic knowledge of human behavior. Social consequences which are counter-productive are stupid.
Yes, I do have that freedom. Everybody is entitled to their own perceptions of reality and are free to express those views; i.e, LV426.
What are you going to do, have the reality police investigate. Now you are going to control our thoughts.
You are exercising bad faith speech when you say I was actually suggesting people not be able to speak up about any subject they choose. It was liberals on this forum that did not want to allow people to wear MAGA hats.
I will never be tolerant of intolerance, so you're barking up the wrong tree.
And you're here, telling people to "shut up" because you think bad Conservative ideas are entitled to not be criticized.
What bad faith do liberals spread?
You're the ones who lied about your tax cut. You're the ones who lied about Obamacare. You're the ones who said Obama was born in Kenya. You're the ones who lied about Hillary being corrupt. You're the ones who lied us into Iraq.
LOL!
What liberal lies?
Why would someone attack, yell, or insult someone wearing a Black Lives Matter (BLL?) shirt?
We know why someone would attack, yell, or insult someone wearing a MAGA hat because the MAGA hat is racist and fascist (and tacky).
Spare me your sanctimonious, both siderist bullshit.
That's bad faith.
But you're the one telling people to "shut up", so you don't actually believe in what you're saying.
No, that's the job of journalists; to decipher fact from fiction, fantasy from reality. So it makes sense why you people attack the press.
You literally said that people should "shut up".
So words don't mean what they mean now?
Quite the contrary...there are liberals on this board, myself included, who think all Trump voters should wear their MAGA hats all the time. That way, we can identify who the racist, stupid bigots are and adjust accordingly. Women should know if they're dating someone who supports a sexual assaulter. Businesses should know if they're being patronized by homophobic bigots. Schools should know if they are employing racists. Co-workers should know if they are working alongside a fascist.
I think MAGA hats should be permanently attached to the heads of Trump voters and supporters.
I don't think they should be banned at all.
You are again engaging in bad faith speech when I clearly have written twice previously that "shut up" was not to be taken literally but to mean others should not be trying to restrict free speech. I guess you have both a very short memory and do not understand literal statements and rhetorical speech.
Your society sounds like Nazi Germany where Jews had to wear a Star of David and homosexuals had to wear pink triangles.
You've never heard me attack the "real" press other than pretend trash news like Fox, MSNBC, and CNN.
You've never heard me say any of those things. You must be mistaking me for Stretch AGAIN.
You make wild assumptions about what a person believes unless they fall lockstep into every liberal talking point.
You should be glad "bad faith speech" is constitutionally protected or you would have nothing to say.
You equate criticism with suppression.
That's bad faith.
You don't get to retcon what you said before because it made you look bad.
I'm not the one who called Nazis "very fine people".
They are part of the press.
I haven't exercised bad faith at all. But you have, a number of times.
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I would not suppress any speech. You are the one who wants to live in a fascist society because of a hat someone wears. You want a society that bullies people if you disagree with their political views.
A society that bullies and suppresses someone because of their freedom of expression does not really believe in free speech. They are saying "you can exercise your free speech, but we will punish you for it." Only you are using "social consequences" for "punish."
No, they are part of the partisan hate press. Nobody who wants to be informed watches those trash networks or gets their news from television.
You have exercised "bad faith" speech but most of us just call it lies. When somebody proves you wrong you suddenly drop the discussion or deflect to some unrelated argument.
Yeah, but you just said before that people should "shut up" and let Conservatives have their bottle.
So what you say is a lot different from what you do.
Since the right's "political view" is to deny other people's existence, why exactly should I be tolerant of that?
When has hugging Nazis ever stopped them from being Nazis?
Why is that a problem? Why shouldn't people face social consequences for what they say and do?
This is your inherent bias and prejudice coming through.
You're not some non-partisan, above-it-all, thoughtful person. You exercise "bothsiderism" because you're too lazy to do the work of recognizing differences and distinctions. It's simpler for someone like you to just boil everything down to the same level because you lack a work ethic. You're telling everyone to manage their expectations of you downward. You're lowering your own bar.