Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
did you see my post about eliminating fiat currency and banker despotism? what's your take on that?
Why Don't People Like To Talk About Politics?
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did you see my post about eliminating fiat currency and banker despotism? what's your take on that?
If he doesn't have you on ignore, it's because you haven't hurt his feelings yet.
Neither do I but he got his feelings hurt. If he gets his feelings hurt by something I said, that's his problem not mine.
Why Don't People Like To Talk About Politics?
One reason is because of all the abuse. We've both read many posts on JPP of people insulting, cursing, hatred, and demeaning others for their political views. It also gets very personal.
Maybe the question should be what is wrong with us to continue to subject ourselves to it?
Those feeling they have no power or control is more characteristic of those with low levels of efficacy who believe their lives are more influenced by outside forces. They are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories, astrology, the supernatural, and lower voter turnout. Those people out in the streets protesting something or rallying for candidates or causes have higher efficacy scores because they believe their actions can make a difference. They are the people on JPP who believe dramatic changes are going to occur due to an election, investigation, impeachment hearing, etc.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Flash,
That's why I simply do not tolerate it. And why I really appreciate individuals such as yourself who can discuss politics in a mature civil manner, whether we agree or disagree. You are the kind of people that keep me coming back to JPP.
You'll have to answer that one. I don't know how you can talk to the more immature lefties who mouth off to you. I wouldn't do it. I've got a lot of respect for your ability to do this. I used to but my patience ran out. I wondered how it would be with all trolls on Ignore. Fabulous, I would say! Once I experienced that I never wanted to go back.
I was with you there up until the last sentence.
Change happens. Usually slow, but sometimes all of a sudden.
That's why I simply do not tolerate it. And why I really appreciate individuals such as yourself who can discuss politics in a mature civil manner, whether we agree or disagree. You are the kind of people that keep me coming back to JPP.
You'll have to answer that one. I don't know how you can talk to the more immature lefties who mouth off to you. I wouldn't do it. I've got a lot of respect for your ability to do this. I used to but my patience ran out. I wondered how it would be with all trolls on Ignore. Fabulous, I would say! Once I experienced that I never wanted to go back.
I was with you there up until the last sentence.
Change happens. Usually slow, but sometimes all of a sudden.
ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
One reason, at least for people over age 40 or maybe 50, is that most of us were taught that in a polite and civil society it's best to stay away from certain subjects to maintain politeness and civility. Politics is one area; others are religion, sexuality, and money (as in your own or another person's personal financial situation). Younger ppl don't tend to be shy of discussing any or all of the above, but in general they don't seem to have much interest in politics. Even at the University, in a program of study that includes a lot of minority students, political discussion is difficult. They're engaged, all right, and interested. But like most of us were when we were young, they're *very* one-sided and don't have much interest in understanding why things are the way they are today. Like celticguy pointed out, we need to learn from history or we risk repeating it.
Certainly the nastiness, name-calling, and personal attacks don't do anything to get us discussing things like adults. And I think the pundits and the powerful like it that way.
Certainly the nastiness, name-calling, and personal attacks don't do anything to get us discussing things like adults. And I think the pundits and the powerful like it that way.
I did not suggest that it does not. I was stating what those two groups (high and low efficacy) believe. I was not expressing an opinion on whether they were correct or incorrect in those views; only that those view affect their political behavior. Why vote if voting makes no difference?
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
The sad, but interesting, fact is that he blocked me after maybe 2 or 3 posts.
He clearly is a puss that can't handle disagreement.
He definitely couldn't have blocked me for being a troll since I'm not one. What evidence do you have to back up your claim I'm a troll? Be specific.
cawacko
Well-known member
Many of us grew up being taught you don't talk politics or religion in polite company. But that aside, there are people who wish death upon those they disagree with politically. If you're hosting a dinner party among friends and/or neighbors for example is that what you want to happen? You hear about family members who don't speak because of political disagreement.
There are a lot of reason people don't speak about politics.
There are a lot of reason people don't speak about politics.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Was that a joke post?
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
not at all. it's the simple truth that explodes globalist minds everywhere.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hi Flash,
OK, I reread your last sentence. I had misread it before. I agree now.
And speaking of making things happen, here is a good thing to start advocating for:
The video talks about a magic yellow line. Once that line is reached then the federal system changes. Now consider how long it has taken for marijuana to become legal. We are getting close that yellow line for marijuana legalization. It's not like the Federal Congress is just gonna do that on their own without it happening in a lot of States first. That could have happened long ago, but nobody wanted to step out there and champion for it nationally since McGovern did and lost in 72. Every election cycle more States are legalizing marijuana. Guess what's next? Federal legalization. Don't believe it? Just remember these words and wait. You know it's leading to that. And it can't be stopped. Just like when women got the right to vote, interracial marriage became legal, and then we got marriage equality. They all happened the same way. And that is the proven method being begun right now to pass the ...
Anti Corruption Act.
Now, of course, you extremists (not you, Flash! Speaking in general here) will want no part of this. It means working together with the other side to solve common problems, and we know you want none of that. Just the fact that I am a liberal and I am talking about this should instantly cause you to think it's complete hooey and a trick. We know that for you extremists, all of your conspiracy theories are predicated on the other side being really horrible people who wish to destroy the land they love, for whatever reason only you can explain. Makes no sense to the rest of us from either side of the middle.
This plan is endorsed by Democrats and Republicans alike who are sick of our government being thought of so lowly, sick of seeing government blamed for problems caused by big money. If it has seemed hopeless with no way to fix it, now there is a way.
Now if you are a more centrist person of reason, who isn't so blinded by propaganda that you think one side has all the answers, then you are probably one of the people who will approve of this idea, and maybe even want to contribute to the cause, or even get active locally wherever you are to find others who agree and try to get it passed in your area. Little by little gets it done, a little here, a little there, eventually we get enough of the nation that the yellow line is reached and presto. No more big money buying off our government. No, it's not too good to be true. It's going to take a lot of work, and it is going to be worth while. We just need to spread the word and get enough people focused on creating that solution.
Eventually we will reach the goal.
OK, I reread your last sentence. I had misread it before. I agree now.
And speaking of making things happen, here is a good thing to start advocating for:
The video talks about a magic yellow line. Once that line is reached then the federal system changes. Now consider how long it has taken for marijuana to become legal. We are getting close that yellow line for marijuana legalization. It's not like the Federal Congress is just gonna do that on their own without it happening in a lot of States first. That could have happened long ago, but nobody wanted to step out there and champion for it nationally since McGovern did and lost in 72. Every election cycle more States are legalizing marijuana. Guess what's next? Federal legalization. Don't believe it? Just remember these words and wait. You know it's leading to that. And it can't be stopped. Just like when women got the right to vote, interracial marriage became legal, and then we got marriage equality. They all happened the same way. And that is the proven method being begun right now to pass the ...
Anti Corruption Act.
Now, of course, you extremists (not you, Flash! Speaking in general here) will want no part of this. It means working together with the other side to solve common problems, and we know you want none of that. Just the fact that I am a liberal and I am talking about this should instantly cause you to think it's complete hooey and a trick. We know that for you extremists, all of your conspiracy theories are predicated on the other side being really horrible people who wish to destroy the land they love, for whatever reason only you can explain. Makes no sense to the rest of us from either side of the middle.
This plan is endorsed by Democrats and Republicans alike who are sick of our government being thought of so lowly, sick of seeing government blamed for problems caused by big money. If it has seemed hopeless with no way to fix it, now there is a way.
Now if you are a more centrist person of reason, who isn't so blinded by propaganda that you think one side has all the answers, then you are probably one of the people who will approve of this idea, and maybe even want to contribute to the cause, or even get active locally wherever you are to find others who agree and try to get it passed in your area. Little by little gets it done, a little here, a little there, eventually we get enough of the nation that the yellow line is reached and presto. No more big money buying off our government. No, it's not too good to be true. It's going to take a lot of work, and it is going to be worth while. We just need to spread the word and get enough people focused on creating that solution.
Eventually we will reach the goal.
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PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello cawacko,
Yeah, I was taught the same thing about etiquette. I think it was a good guide in general, but it can't hold true all the time. There has to be a place and time for people to talk about the business of the nation. Maybe that advice was originated as the first propaganda of the nation. Keep everybody dumb and guessing and the power structure status quo is maintained. Have everybody talking and brainstorming solutions and they might upset the apple cart for the powerful and actually create shared power, like the Constitution envisions. There's no place in the Constitution where it says rich people are supposed to have all the power over government. They just worked the system and took it because they could. Now it's time to break some taboos and fix it.
And here we are. Now we have the internet. We have a time and place to talk about politics. We can retake the power of the people. This anti-corruption act is how we do it.
5 minutes. Just watch the video. This is going to work. The only unknown is how long it is going to take. That depends on how many people care enough to get involved.
Yeah, I was taught the same thing about etiquette. I think it was a good guide in general, but it can't hold true all the time. There has to be a place and time for people to talk about the business of the nation. Maybe that advice was originated as the first propaganda of the nation. Keep everybody dumb and guessing and the power structure status quo is maintained. Have everybody talking and brainstorming solutions and they might upset the apple cart for the powerful and actually create shared power, like the Constitution envisions. There's no place in the Constitution where it says rich people are supposed to have all the power over government. They just worked the system and took it because they could. Now it's time to break some taboos and fix it.
And here we are. Now we have the internet. We have a time and place to talk about politics. We can retake the power of the people. This anti-corruption act is how we do it.
5 minutes. Just watch the video. This is going to work. The only unknown is how long it is going to take. That depends on how many people care enough to get involved.
cawacko
Well-known member
I don't think its propaganda that makes people not want to talk about politics 24/7, or want to talk about politics when having fun with friends. I've seen people on Facebook for example say if you support Politician X then defriend me. If you support Position A then defriend me. Is that how we end corruption? Was that propaganda that made these people do that?
And I'd guess the whole "we don't talk politics in polite company" came about because when it occurred bad things happened, not all that dissimilar from now.
cawacko
Well-known member
I'd also throw in we have multiple TV stations dedicated to politics 24/7. Anyone who spends time on Facebook has friends who post regularly about politics. If you're on Twitter people talk politics all the time and I'm not even talking politicians or those who cover them. You can't get away from politics in today's world. So if one is uninformed its because they choose to be because the information is out there.