We Have So Much To Be Thankful To China For

serenity said:
that "your" honest instinctively aware of life's natural limitations opinion? Do you need a second opinion to validate your rational idea?
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eh. the more the merrier, but I can sit quietly in a room alone.

"All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone." ― Blaise Pascal,
 
serenity said:
stop with the roll off the dice nonsense society trained your brain to focus around, now think, when has your body ever been the same compounding details so far? Hasn't been since conception correct? Every lifetime experiences the conception to birth addition to ever changing people currently occupying space, correct?

specific kinetic displacement occupying space as timed apart now. Where is the roll of the dice at? Naturally never the same active details twice now here by natural selection, watch how society educates by personal behavior socially playing type cast people.

Did you typecast yourself? The rule of law did historically making your ancestry pick a lesser of two necessary evils to organize dobt straon enough to make people wish life wasn't timed apart so far. What is the intellectual end game socially, intellectually, ancestrally?
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None of us get to choose our genetic inheritance. Could YOU become an 'Einstein'?
 
Jack said:
None of us get to choose our genetic inheritance. Could YOU become an 'Einstein'?
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back to how and why none of us gets to choose out time being part of life now? Einstein was as big a fraud in mathematics as Al Gore was in global warming.

back to the first part, natural selection doesn't give reproductions a choice because being conceived is a kinetic act of timed apart now each species keeps the populaiton going in ever changing shape and form so far inception to a food chain and reproductions extinct never to reproduce again.

Personal choices compounding from birth to dead. What one does with their time here changes everything done so far.

Timed apart now is eternal separation as reproduced. that simple and the source intelelct came up with rule of 72 for calculating yields on interest collection from taxation, investments, loans, savings.

Want a real interesting chore, caclulate the yield on sales tax compared to yields a person gets on their passbook saving account. It is mind blowing.
 
Translation: 'No'.



serenity said:
back to how and why none of us gets to choose out time being part of life now? Einstein was as big a fraud in mathematics as Al Gore was in global warming.

back to the first part, natural selection doesn't give reproductions a choice because being conceived is a kinetic act of timed apart now each species keeps the populaiton going in ever changing shape and form so far inception to a food chain and reproductions extinct never to reproduce again.

Personal choices compounding from birth to dead. What one does with their time here changes everything done so far.

Timed apart now is eternal separation as reproduced. that simple and the source intelelct came up with rule of 72 for calculating yields on interest collection from taxation, investments, loans, savings.

Want a real interesting chore, caclulate the yield on sales tax compared to yields a person gets on their passbook saving account. It is mind blowing.
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Hello Bill,

Bill said:
There is lots of talk of decoupling but not much about how to do it & the repercussions..

Ever thought about why the USA & Canada weren't invited to the BRI party??:thinking:

If we split w/ the CCP we will have to do w/out a lot, &/or pay more if we can find it.. Much just isn't produced here any more~ & oddly enough not because there is no market here..

We can all imagine how we will suffer, meds, tv's phones etc..

How will they suffer??

We don't sell them a whole lot comparatively, & partly because of their restrictions..

What they are doing is creating new markets, our replacements via the BRI........

What markets can we create, exploit etc??? Will we continue to be to busy warring in the ME & Central asia while ccp continues to expand?
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Good point.

I would have to laugh if any of these people who want to blame China, cut things off with China, cancel our debt to China, any of those things, I would have to laugh if they have an I Phone.
 
Hello Bill,

Bill said:
China is not our brother, they are our advisory & competitor..

While we kinda use them interchangeably, to be clear, the prob here is the CCP not China, not Chinese ppl-it's the communist party~they are not brothers nor do we, as a country share a goal w/ them...... Wallstreet yea, not main street..........

They are here to replace us, not work w/ us..... wallstreet is making a buck helping them..
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They need us as much as we need them. Who would buy all their products?

ps, I think you meant adversary.
 
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Hello cawacko,

cawacko said:
This thread is a trip. With stating that conservatives 'hate' China there's the implication that liberals like or love China???
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You must have been reading in that other thread in the alternative universe where I stated that conservatives hate China. It might be better to simply quote where, exactly, the OP says the things you are responding to.

cawacko said:
There was definitely a certain element of liberal Americans that loved the Soviet Union and communism (until it fell apart) so from that perspective it would make sense that there would be an affinity for a communist government. But what happened to all the complaints about China stealing American jobs, Chinese sweatshops, driving down wages in the U.S., massive human rights violations, horrible environmental record, etc. etc.?
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No, it has nothing to do with communism. Virtually no Americans want that, no matter how hard you try to pin such views on liberals.

And all those complaints about China not dealing fairly are still valid.

That doesn't mean there is nothing about China which has benefited us. Things that we all appreciate.

It is a complex world.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello cawacko,



You must have been reading in that other thread in the alternative universe where I stated that conservatives hate China. It might be better to simply quote where, exactly, the OP says the things you are responding to.



No, it has nothing to do with communism. Virtually no Americans want that, no matter how hard you try to pin such views on liberals.

And all those complaints about China not dealing fairly are still valid.

That doesn't mean there is nothing about China which has benefited us. Things that we all appreciate.

It is a complex world.
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The first sentence you posted:

This whole 'hate China' thing is a sadly recurring and wrongfully misplaced theme among conservative thinkers.


If that isn't stating conservatives hate China what is it then?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Bill,



They need us as much as we need them. Who would buy all their products?

ps, I think you meant adversary.
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I did, thanks..

I don't think they do, @ least as much as we do them, but going forward they have an answer to that problem, as I've been saying-THE BRI..

They are creating markets around the world, including in the western hemisphere, Africa & Europe....

They have money & excess industrial/manufacturing capacity & we are policing the world & carrying trillions & trillions in debt..:|
 
Good morning Jack,

Jack said:
Yes. I think you're right. The growing disparity between the 'Haves' and the 'Have-Nots' is probably something the Ownership Class doesn't want to publicize.
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You know it!

They don't want any attention focused on that very sore subject for them.

Actual wealth distribution is extremely embarrassing for those with lots of wealth.

 
Hello cawacko,

cawacko said:
The first sentence you posted:

This whole 'hate China' thing is a sadly recurring and wrongfully misplaced theme among conservative thinkers.


If that isn't stating conservatives hate China what is it then?
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Your post says it. Mine does not.

I talked about a phenomenon I called a 'hate China' thing. I said it is found 'among conservative thinkers.' That implies some conservatives hold the view while others may not.

If I had said there was a bunch of red roses with a white rose among them you would claim I said it was a bunch of white roses. Except that was not what I said.

It would be a lot better if you would simply refrain from trying to paraphrase my views and simply give your own views. Let my words be my words. Don't turn them into something else so you can respond to what you made up.

If you would simply quote me, then respond with your own view on the subject, we could have a more productive conversation. Why is this so difficult?
 
Cackwacko. It was a universal thing, during the 1930, that the fascists, having no serious arguments for their policies, built up hatred throughout Europe to get votes. What it led to was a deeply destructive war, and if you choose to be run by a senile bully intent on ratings, that's what you may yet involve us all in again.
 
PoliTalker said:
This whole 'hate China' thing is a sadly recurring and wrongfully misplaced theme among conservative thinkers.

And to think that a lot of these China haters are also gun nuts raises an extreme hypocrisy.

We have to wonder if they even know who invented gunpowder.

If European invaders had not acquired gunpowder technology from China, their conquest of America would almost certainly have gone very differently. There might not even be a USA if it were not for that Chinese invention.

It is reminiscent of the absurd hatred of France to the point of trying to change French Fries into Freedom Fries, all the while forgetting that without France, the USA would never have gained independence.

The USA has benefited so very greatly from Chinese wisdom, tech and cheap manufacturing over the centuries...

And then there is our great economy. (at least up until a little while ago) The US economy would be NOTHING without China. Our economies are so interlinked and intertwined it would be devastating to both if we tried to separate them and go all isolationist.

We need to maintain a good relationship with China.
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They covered up the Wuhan outbreak for months by disappearing citizen journalists and doctors who were trying to warn us resulting in the deaths of millions across the globe and you want us to be thankful? We don't hate China we hate the murderous totalitarian CCP that rules China through state terror.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello cawacko,



Your post says it. Mine does not.

I talked about a phenomenon I called a 'hate China' thing. I said it is found 'among conservative thinkers.' That implies some conservatives hold the view while others may not.

If I had said there was a bunch of red roses with a white rose among them you would claim I said it was a bunch of white roses. Except that was not what I said.

It would be a lot better if you would simply refrain from trying to paraphrase my views and simply give your own views. Let my words be my words. Don't turn them into something else so you can respond to what you made up.

If you would simply quote me, then respond with your own view on the subject, we could have a more productive conversation. Why is this so difficult?
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...says the America hating communist...
 
FreeSpeech said:
They covered up the Wuhan outbreak for months by disappearing citizen journalists and doctors who were trying to warn us resulting in the deaths of millions across the globe and you want us to be thankful? We don't hate China we hate the murderous totalitarian CCP that rules China through state terror.
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Uh, oh... be careful, you'll soon be on that America hating bitch's ignore list...
 
Bill said:
I did, thanks..

I don't think they do, @ least as much as we do them, but going forward they have an answer to that problem, as I've been saying-THE BRI..

They are creating markets around the world, including in the western hemisphere, Africa & Europe....

They have money & excess industrial/manufacturing capacity & we are policing the world & carrying trillions & trillions in debt..:|
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Yes China exports excess capacity and inflation, their economy is a giant ponzi scheme as most of their claimed assets are non-performing.

1.5 billion people and one Nobel prize winner, that tells you all you need to know about China.
 
Good morning Bill,

Bill said:
I did, thanks..
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:)

Bill said:
I don't think they do, @ least as much as we do them, but going forward they have an answer to that problem, as I've been saying-THE BRI..

They are creating markets around the world, including in the western hemisphere, Africa & Europe....

They have money & excess industrial/manufacturing capacity & we are policing the world & carrying trillions & trillions in debt..:|
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Where did China get the money they have?

Who is their big cash cow?
 
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