Time To Recognize Who We Are; Reunite America

Please, let us ratchet down the rhetoric.

It is time for civil discourse, thank you.

America thanks you.

No. This is JPP. The Democrats are attempting to steal the election. They intend to destroy the United States Constitution and implement fascism by oligarchy. The time for civil discourse is long past.
 
Hello evince,



You're entitled to your view, evince. We don't always agree.

I certainly agree that lies should be set straight.

I differentiate between lies and opinion. Facts are things that are agreed to by both sides.

People are allowed to have their own view. If they are disputing something you believe is fact it then becomes a matter of discussion with opposing views.

The best case is if everyone is polite and courteous so a cerebral academic discussion can really weigh out the pluses and minuses of each argument.

Personal attacks have no part in a mutually respectful discussion. That actually prevents functional discussions.

You don't want discussion. You have the longest ignore list in JPP.
 
Hello evince,



Refusing to talk to somebody is not being kind to them.

It is actually the worst thing that can be done to a troll.

Simply pretend they don't exist - ignore them - make no response.

Trolls do what they do in expectation of getting a response, getting some attention. That's the whole point of trolling - getting attention. Just like Trump trolls the whole nation.

The one thing that terrifies them is to be ignored, to get no attention.

Make their worst fears come true. Ignore them.

Paradox. Which is it, dude?
 
Hello Nordberg,



That underscores how correct the message was. It scared extremists to the point that somebody killed him. Same thing happened to MLK. That doesn't mean it was the wrong message. It actually means they were both right.

Getting killed for a message does not make the message 'right'.
 
Hello Saudade,



I don't see how that could happen but I would like to see it happen.

How can voters be pleased with a kneecapped presidency that can't accomplish anything?

How is that going to bring voters out in sufficient numbers after Democrats have been on the defensive for 2 years with little to show for their time?

I see Democrats in a difficult position. They have not been able to gather the support of the non college educated white males. The Republicans have that demographic, and Trump charges up their enthusiasm. Trump can keep on sending tweets after he is out of office. Trump could file papers to run in 2024, start holding rallies, fire them all up and keep them angry, just waiting to vote in 2022.

Trump, the art of the come-back.

America really needs to prosecute him and put him away.

Nice way to argue for unity, dumbass.
 
Hello Saudade,

There is a lot of pending litigation coming. Maybe they will.

I would be surprised if it amounts to much. So far every case has either been swatted away as superfluous or has not been anything that would change the results.

The bottom line is if the president has any evidence to back up his claims, he needs to present it. So far there has been nothing but unsupported false claims.
 
PoliTalker:

"Dive, market, DIVE!

Take DT down with you.


02-28-2020, 06:47 AM #5 | Top
PoliTalker


"Sometimes things have to get worse before they can get better.

We're going down.

BZZZZZT! BZZZZZT! BZZZZZT!

Dive! Dive! Dive!"
 
Hello Saudade,

Plenty of people vote split ticket. Not as many do that as in the past, but plenty of people don't want one party control. Moderation is something that many people still prefer.

That being said, I realize that Trump's populism isn't dead, but the system needed to elect people seems to be.

I would point to the record voter participation and say that indicates otherwise, that citizen involvement in our system of self government is alive and well.
 
Hello Saudade,



I would be surprised if it amounts to much. So far every case has either been swatted away as superfluous or has not been anything that would change the results.

The bottom line is if the president has any evidence to back up his claims, he needs to present it. So far there has been nothing but unsupported false claims.

A lie.


Breaking and Analysis: Supreme Court, on 5-3 Party Line Vote, Won’t Restore Wisconsin Ballot Deadline Extension; Justices Fight in Footnotes over Pennsylvania State Court Issue
Posted on October 26, 2020 5:04 pm by Rick Hasen

"On a 5-3 party line vote, the Supreme Court rejected Democrats’ and voting rights groups attempts to reverse the 7th Circuit putting the brakes on a district court order that would have extended the deadline for receipt of absentee ballots postmarked by election day and received for up to six days after election day. All of the Republican-appointed Justices voted against extending the deadline; all of the Democratic-appointed Justices voted to allow the extension."
electionlaw.org

More to come, Snowflake.
 
PoliTalker:

"Dive, market, DIVE!

Take DT down with you.


02-28-2020, 06:47 AM #5 | Top
PoliTalker


"Sometimes things have to get worse before they can get better.

We're going down.

BZZZZZT! BZZZZZT! BZZZZZT!

Dive! Dive! Dive!"

Record gains in the stock market this week. :lolup:
 
A lie.


Breaking and Analysis: Supreme Court, on 5-3 Party Line Vote, Won’t Restore Wisconsin Ballot Deadline Extension; Justices Fight in Footnotes over Pennsylvania State Court Issue
Posted on October 26, 2020 5:04 pm by Rick Hasen

"On a 5-3 party line vote, the Supreme Court rejected Democrats’ and voting rights groups attempts to reverse the 7th Circuit putting the brakes on a district court order that would have extended the deadline for receipt of absentee ballots postmarked by election day and received for up to six days after election day. All of the Republican-appointed Justices voted against extending the deadline; all of the Democratic-appointed Justices voted to allow the extension."
electionlaw.org

More to come, Snowflake.

President-elect Biden
 
Hello Darth,


My voice joins those which have constantly been overlooked, saying enough of the animosity, noting that the bitter polarization is hurting the country.

This much is plain:

It is not a logical argument to say that since we have been bitter and polarized, with many foolish minds dehumanizing the opposite side, that it means we should continue to hamstring meaningful progress with more bitter polarization.

I would ask how hatespeak is supposed to solve our problems?

It won't.

We must take this election as an inflection point and round the corner towards being a more functional and self-respectful nation.

We have had a president who found it advantageous to stoke the fires of hatred and division. Now, we are nearing the end of that presidency and we will be transitioning into a completely different motivation for leadership. We will truly have a president who intends to serve the entire nation, not just his own supporters.

ps: If you are quoting someone else, please use quotation marks in your post. The reader of your post has no other immediate way to know that it is not you who said the body of your post unless you use quotation marks. When I first read your post I thought it was your words. Then, later, when I clicked on the link THAT was when I learned that no, it wasn't anything you has said at all, that it was someone else. Please use quote marks next time? Thanks.
 
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Hello Darth,



My voice joins those which have constantly been overlooked, saying enough of the animosity, noting that the bitter polarization is hurting the country.

This much is plain:

It is not a logical argument to say that since we have been bitter and polarized, with many foolish minds dehumanizing the opposite side, that it means we should continue to hamstring meaningful progress with more bitter polarization.

I would ask how hatespeak is supposed to solve our problems?

It won't.

We must take this election as an inflection point and round the corner towards being a more functional and self-respectful nation.

We have had a president who found it advantageous to stoke the fires of hatred and division. Now, we are nearing the end of that presidency and we will be transitioning into a completely different motivation for leadership. We will truly have a president who intends to serve the entire nation, not just his own supporters.

ps: If you are quoting someone else, please use quotation marks in your post. The reader of your post has no other immediate way to know that it is not you who said the body of your post unless you use quotation marks. When I first read your post I thought it was your words. Then, later, when I clicked on the link THAT was when I learned that no, it wasn't anything you has said at all, that it was someone else. Please use quote marks next time? Thanks.

How about this bitter polarization that you posted:

"PoliTalker:

"Dive, market, DIVE!

Take DT down with you."


02-28-2020, 06:47 AM #5 | Top
PoliTalker


"Sometimes things have to get worse before they can get better.

We're going down.

BZZZZZT! BZZZZZT! BZZZZZT!

Dive! Dive! Dive!"


Note the use of quotation marks and the person being quoted...PoliTalker.
 
Hello Darth,



My voice joins those which have constantly been overlooked, saying enough of the animosity, noting that the bitter polarization is hurting the country.

This much is plain:

It is not a logical argument to say that since we have been bitter and polarized, with many foolish minds dehumanizing the opposite side, that it means we should continue to hamstring meaningful progress with more bitter polarization.

I would ask how hatespeak is supposed to solve our problems?

It won't.

We must take this election as an inflection point and round the corner towards being a more functional and self-respectful nation.

We have had a president who found it advantageous to stoke the fires of hatred and division. Now, we are nearing the end of that presidency and we will be transitioning into a completely different motivation for leadership. We will truly have a president who intends to serve the entire nation, not just his own supporters.

ps: If you are quoting someone else, please use quotation marks in your post. The reader of your post has no other immediate way to know that it is not you who said the body of your post unless you use quotation marks. When I first read your post I thought it was your words. Then, later, when I clicked on the link THAT was when I learned that no, it wasn't anything you has said at all, that it was someone else. Please use quote marks next time? Thanks.

Her name is on the Tweet for crying out loud lol.

And she has a good point: for four years, Trump supporters were subjected to be called racists, xenophobes, Nazis etc etc. And now, Democrats are asking for unity.

Maybe we aren’t feeling it.

And enough with pinning the hatred and divisiveness on Trump and his supporters. YOUR SIDE has been out in the streets all summer rioting, looting, throwing bricks at people, shooting cops and etc, all over the fact some folks ‘have the gall’ to disagree with them.

We/they aren’t playing that game anymore.
 
"Thus far in 2020, Gallup finds 55% of Americans reporting that they own stock, based on polls conducted in March and April. This is identical to the average 55% recorded in 2019 and similar to the average of 54% Gallup has measured since 2010.'

Millions of Americans and their families suffered economic loss in Feb./Mar. when the stock market crashed and PoliTalker CHEERED.
 
I am a Democrat and I am reaching out to my fellow Republican Americans, appealing to you to share mutual respect.

Let us keep the lines if civility open so that we can discuss what's going on in our nation and see what we can agree on to move forward.

I am also reaching out to my fellow Americans on the left to accept that we live in a very divided America, that hatred and animosity should not be shown to our fellow Americans.

We are all in this together.

We must find our way forward together.

We have to stop fighting so we can have meaningful discussion of the important issues we have to try to resolve somehow.

Our challenge is to find a way to agree on the basic facts.

If we don't even agree on the facts, we can never decide what needs to be done about them.

Fuck you. You lefties have spent the last 4 years trying to tear apart this country and now you want to play nice.
 
Hello Darth,

Her name is on the Tweet for crying out loud lol.

And she has a good point: for four years, Trump supporters were subjected to be called racists, xenophobes, Nazis etc etc. And now, Democrats are asking for unity.

Maybe we aren’t feeling it.

And enough with pinning the hatred and divisiveness on Trump and his supporters. YOUR SIDE has been out in the streets all summer rioting, looting, throwing bricks at people, shooting cops and etc, all over the fact some folks ‘have the gall’ to disagree with them.

We/they aren’t playing that game anymore.

I would say enough of blaming all Democrats for what a few people have done. They do not represent the whole party.

There are voices on both sides saying enough of the infighting among Americans.

That is not helping our nation.

The best thing we can do for America is to turn a page and begin a new chapter. We have to give peace a chance. This is the time.

It is not going to be total Democratic rule. We get that. Your party is well represented. Stop dwelling on the past. Look forward. It is time for find our future together.
 
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