You just answered your own question, Walter.
Walt said:
Do you think Russians will get F-16's from trump to go up against Ukraine's Mirage 2000's?
Congrats, Walter.
France Is Sending Mirage 2000 Fighters to Battle Russia
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Walt said:
Do you think Russians will get F-16's from trump to go up against Ukraine's Mirage 2000's?
Congrats, Walter.
So I see no point in comparing the F-16 to the Mirage 2000....
By the time trump gets the designs of the F-16 to Putin, and Russians figure out how to make it, many years will have passed.
Go outside and get a breath of fresh air Walter.
Americans no longer believe or care about Trump bashing.
The train left without you, Walter.
Over half of Americans voted against trump. About half of the people who voted for trump are terrified that he will turn out to be an idiot, AGAIN.
Maybe YOU and YOUR Children can go fight in Ukraine? Anybody can Chickenhawk when they have no sweat and blood in the game themselves. You and yours can go show us how its done,....our side of the aisle have sent plenty enuff of our turn. YOUR TURN! Step up or STFU.....one or the other.
LIE.....more Americans voted for Trump than Kamala. Have you always been a compulsive LIAR Wally?
If Trump is an idiot (he isn’t) what does that make Harris, Walter.
She lost to him in a landslide…the House retained, the Senate and White House flipped.
Get out of your bubble, Walter. It’s suffocating you.
Poor Walter is wrong on multiple levels.
He is in dire need of an intervention.
The landslide victory of Trump and of the Republicans has driven him over the edge.
He’s posting nonsense now…well he’s always posted mostly nonsense.
WALT is not almost always wrong on accident.
"They are not stupid.....they are Evil"
Candice
“President-elect Donald Trump won a decisive victory in Tuesday’s election with support from some demographic groups who have favored him in the past, as well as wider margins from others that have been traditional Democratic strongholds.
According to AP VoteCast, 16 percent of Black voters supported Trump in 2024, up from 8 percent in 2020. In comparison, 83 percent of Black voters supported Kamala Harris, down from the 91 percent who supported Joe Biden in 2020.
Democrats also lost ground among Latino voters, with 56 percent voting for Harris in 2024 compared to 63 percent for Biden in 2020. Trump’s support grew from 35 percent in 2020 to 42 percent in 2024.
There was a gender gap in 2024’s voting preferences: Trump won support from 24 percent of Black men versus 9 percent of Black women, 47 percent of Latino men versus 38 percent of Latino women, and 59 percent of white men versus 53 percent of white women.”
pbs.org
If this trend continues, the Democratic brand will remain toxic.
According to AP VoteCast, 16 percent of Black voters supported Trump in 2024, up from 8 percent in 2020. In comparison, 83 percent of Black voters supported Kamala Harris, down from the 91 percent who supported Joe Biden in 2020.
Democrats also lost ground among Latino voters, with 56 percent voting for Harris in 2024 compared to 63 percent for Biden in 2020. Trump’s support grew from 35 percent in 2020 to 42 percent in 2024.
There was a gender gap in 2024’s voting preferences: Trump won support from 24 percent of Black men versus 9 percent of Black women, 47 percent of Latino men versus 38 percent of Latino women, and 59 percent of white men versus 53 percent of white women.”
pbs.org
If this trend continues, the Democratic brand will remain toxic.
Maybe you and Trump let Ukrainians themselves decide when they want to stop fighting for their country, instead of telling them they just need to surrender to the invaders.
I've never said Americans should fight for Ukraine. I've only ever said we should give them the tools to defend themselves.
On the other hand, you were undoubtedly a cheerleader
for the invasion of Iraq, but then sat comfortably on the sidelines for nine years as the insurgency played out.The Russians are the Good Guys in this story.Maybe you and Trump let Ukrainians themselves decide when they want to stop fighting for their country, instead of telling them they just need to surrender to the invaders.
I've never said Americans should fight for Ukraine. I've only ever said we should give them the tools to defend themselves.
On the other hand, you were undoubtedly a cheerleader
T. A. Gardner
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No.
trump got less than 50% of the popular vote, because most Americans voted against trump. Not all those who voted against trump voted for Harris, so trump was able to get more votes than Harris.
None of this is a lie. Stone may not like the truth, but it remains the truth.
trump is very popular among a minority, but is very unpopular among a majority. Many of those who trump is unpopular with prefer him to Harris, but they do not like him much either.
Yes, I know that MAGA is typically pro-Kremlin.
Someone who lost to an idiot. It happens sometimes.
A landslide of 1%? trump was not even able to get a majority. Grow up and realize that trump won by the skin of his teeth. If Harris is so bad, and trump so great, why couldn't he even get a simple majority?
Republicans have the smallest majority in the House in a century. It is a record close call.
The above statements says all you have to know about the current alt right.
Then the question is how effective the Mirage 2000 would be against Russian weapons. The Russians are hiding their MiG's far back from the line, so a lot of these fighters are being used as forward observers.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Marginally. First, the Russian Air Force isn't operating in strength over Ukraine, but instead mostly using stand-off weapons in hit-and-run attacks from adjoining Russian territory. Thus, the Mirage, an almost totally visual engagement fighter with short range is ill-suited to engage those aircraft. What you need is a BVR capacity that the F-16 has and the Mirage really doesn't. The main missile for the Mirage is the R. 550 Magic II, a French system similar to Sidewinder. Otherwise, it uses cannon armament. Both are suited for short-range engagements.
As a ground attack plane, given the limited ordinance loadouts and types it can use, it really isn't worth employing it this way except in a pinch. Again, the F-16 is better where it can be equipped with a pod for guiding a large selection of PGM's and other guided ordinance into pinpoint strikes that the Mirage really can't do.