Could A Good God Permit So Much Suffering?

[Cypress]

ITN is female????? That I find surprising. I'm used to only dudes being as obtuse as ITN. LOL.

I'm not actually sure one way or the other, but it gives off the vibe of a right-wing MAGA chick

 

[Based Chad]

I'm not actually sure one way or the other, but it gives off the vibe of a right-wing MAGA chick

what.

hot as fuck and DTF?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It's to your credit that you are motivated to get physics right.

ITN just digs her heels in and digs the hole deeper when she is flagrantly incorrect, lol

That's because Sybil is cray-cray. Fun to study, but conversation is a waste of time with the mentally ill.

 

[Based Chad]

That's because Sybil is cray-cray. Fun to study, but conversation is a waste of time with the mentally ill.

maybe.

but you just say that because you're dumb and everyone beats your dumb ass so you run away like all Dems.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

ITN is female????? That I find surprising. I'm used to only dudes being as obtuse as ITN. LOL.

ITN = gfm = IBDa = Sybil for short. It's a pretty good guess Uncensored2008 is another Sybil sock. Lots of similarities in tone and beliefs.

 

[IBDaMann]

You claim to supposedly want to get physics exactly right,

My claim is nothing more than the science in question, which is exactly correct as you noted.

but then you totally ignored your boyfriend ITN writing something completely false and ass-backwards incorrect about gravitational time dilation

What I am ignoring is your pivot. I keep giving you correct answers while you keep rejecting them out of hand in deference to your error-filled misunderstanding. Let's you and I avoid changing the topic away from Relativity to Into the Night. Let's stick with the science.

You assert that Einstein's creation of Relativity caused forces to stop classically accelerating masses. Your assertion is stupid. Yes, I can see why you are now desperate to change the subject to Into the Night, but we're going to remain here on this point so that you can explain yourself.

 

[Into the Night]

Spirit predates,the Physical universe, and is on a higher plane

The Universe is only one Universe (by definition). It has no date or age.

 

[Into the Night]

ITN = gfm = IBDa = Sybil for short. It's a pretty good guess Uncensored2008 is another Sybil sock. Lots of similarities in tone and beliefs.

You can't blame your sock problem on anybody else, Sybil. I am not you.

 

[Into the Night]

I'm not actually sure one way or the other, but it gives off the vibe of a right-wing MAGA chick

I am not you, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

That's because Sybil is cray-cray.

That you are.

Fun to study,

Not really.

but conversation is a waste of time with the mentally ill.

I agree.

 

[Cypress]

My claim is nothing more than the science in question, which is exactly correct as you noted.


What I am ignoring is your pivot. I keep giving you correct answers while you keep rejecting them out of hand in deference to your error-filled misunderstanding. Let's you and I avoid changing the topic away from Relativity to Into the Night. Let's stick with the science.

You assert that Einstein's creation of Relativity caused forces to stop classically accelerating masses. Your assertion is stupid. Yes, I can see why you are now desperate to change the subject to Into the Night, but we're going to remain here on this point so that you can explain yourself.

So you fancy yourself Doctor Science, but then just studiously ignore it when your dear boyfriend makes completely inaccurate and scientifically illiterate statements about physics.

 

[Margot]

The Universe is only one Universe (by definition). It has no date or age.

The Physical universe very much has a starting date! The millisecond
of the Big Bang!
Coincidentally that's exactly when Satan tried to invaded YHWH's space in Satan's failed rebellion.

 

[IBDaMann]

So you fancy yourself Doctor Science,

So you fancy yourself a genius scientist who gets to declare his own delusions as science.

Let me know when you can stop pivoting away from the topic out of sheer desperation to save your sacred delusion.

 

[Cypress]

So you fancy yourself a genius scientist who gets to declare his own delusions as science.

Let me know when you can stop pivoting away from the topic out of sheer desperation to save your sacred delusion.

You haven't explained why you imagine you are a teacher of physics, but then you intentionally stayed silent when your beloved boyfriend ITN made the stupidest and most scientifically illiterate statement on the entire thread.

 

[IBDaMann]

You haven't explained why you imagine you are a teacher of physics,

You're absolutely right. I can't be your teacher if you can't learn. You got me on that one.

 

[Based Chad]

You haven't explained why you imagine you are a teacher of physics, but then you intentionally stayed silent when your beloved boyfriend ITN made the stupidest and most scientifically illiterate statement on the entire thread.

just stick with the facts.

 

[Cypress]

You're absolutely right.

So you refuse to explain why you act like you want to get the details of physics right, but then intentionally ignored the most scientifically ignorant comment on the entire thread because it came from your beloved boyfriend ITN.

 

[TravisBickle]

I think the God of the Jews abandoned this rock.

 

[gmark77]

I think the God of the Jews abandoned this rock.

The "Absentee" God is about as meaningful as any other version proposed thus far in this thread. The concept of a God as a simple placeholder to explain "where everything comes from" but cannot be described or even known in any real way and the only evidence of its existence is that things exist seems utterly pointless to me.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The "Absentee" God is about as meaningful as any other version proposed thus far in this thread. The concept of a God as a simple placeholder to explain "where everything comes from" but cannot be described or even known in any real way and the only evidence of its existence is that things exist seems utterly pointless to me.

If by "Absentee God" you mean the Deist "Watchmaker God", I don't have a problem with it. Unlike atheists who believe the Universe just magically popped into existence for no rhyme or reason, I believe there is a rhyme and reason for the existence of the Universe. Using a "God" as a placeholder for that creation works for me.

As for the Watchmaker, space-time exists inside the Universe as part of its structure. Outside, no one knows even if there is an outside, but if there is, then time is meaningless. Hence the term "eternity". It's not like a watchmaker who winds up an watch and walks away forever. More like a watchmaker who winds up a watch and watches it wind down without interference.

Atheist whine that God allows suffering. Kindergarteners whine that grownups are mean for making them go to school. Those two ideas have a lot of similarity.

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Some deists espoused the classic “watchmaker” view of God: the deity had wound up the world and went away, never to be involved with humankind again.