GZ: an angry racist out to kill?

wiseones2cents said:
Nahhhh its more then that! laws were passed! Like the Sullivan Law.It was designed to keep guns out of the hands of uppity minorities, who were prone to criminal activity and couldn't be trusted like normal folks.
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dude, you have GOT to learn history. the sullivan act was passed to disarm the irish folks so that they couldn't defend themselves against the italian mobsters in NYC. Sullivan even came out and said that was his intent with the law.

wiseones2cents said:
Here are many more thoughts on why. Actually in most states you DO need a license to carry.(Only for transporting, target shooting or hunting.)

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080602144346AAU6q0p
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I ask again, how do states get away with charging a license tax for the exercise of a right?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
dude, you have GOT to learn history. the sullivan act was passed to disarm the irish folks so that they couldn't defend themselves against the italian mobsters in NYC. Sullivan even came out and said that was his intent with the law.
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LOL> See what I mean about people swallowing mis-information. ummm Sullivan was???IRISH!! They say it was to disarm the Italians!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_Act

Many believe the act was to discriminate against immigrants in New York, particularly Italians, as the first person arrested under the law was mobster Giuseppe Costabile [1]. Whether this was part of the law's intent, it was passed on a wave of anti-immigrant rhetoric as a measure to disarm an alleged criminal element. The police granted the licenses, and could easily discriminate against "undesirable" elements.

I ask again, how do states get away with charging a license tax for the exercise of a right?
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How do they get away with anything? The people allow it.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
a black or hispanic person wearing a handgun doesn't bother me. As long as he's not acting a fool, trying to bully or intimidate people with it, why should I care that they are exercising their right to have ready self defense?
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If you were smarter then me? You'd be worried when a youth with a low I.Q. approaches you, and what you say, while packing a gun.

Gotta go now, but I will be back shortly. :)
 
wiseones2cents said:
LOL> See what I mean about people swallowing mis-information. ummm Sullivan was???IRISH!! They say it was to disarm the Italians!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_Act

Many believe the act was to discriminate against immigrants in New York, particularly Italians, as the first person arrested under the law was mobster Giuseppe Costabile [1]. Whether this was part of the law's intent, it was passed on a wave of anti-immigrant rhetoric as a measure to disarm an alleged criminal element. The police granted the licenses, and could easily discriminate against "undesirable" elements.
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my bad, i'm multi tasking and had it backwards. kudos on having it right.

wiseones2cents said:
How do they get away with anything? The people allow it.
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and that's ok with you?
 
wiseones2cents said:
Like this Islamaphobic Christian fanatics. KKK members, black people that have shown racism towards whites, Republicans like Ted Nugent!
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are you wanting to apply 'guilt by association' tactics to deny rights? or prior means testing determine who has rights? in other words, what process would you like to implement that determines eligibility for a right?
 
Yurt said:
THINK YOU KNOW GEORGE ZIMMERMAN? THIS NEW TIMELINE AND PROFILE COULD CHANGE THE PERCEPTION (AND THE CASE)

When the Trayvon Martin case first started garnering national attention, there were many that thought they knew who George Zimmerman was: an overzealous racist with a vendetta against young black men who was on a mission to assert power with his gun. But then little details started emerging, such as pictures of Zimmerman’s bloody head that could bolster his self-defense claim; CNN even backtracked and said the tape it once suggested showed Zimmerman uttering a racist slur was actually him most likely saying it was “cold.”

And now, Reuters has put together a detailed profile of Zimmerman that seems to suggest he was a concerned citizen that was trying to help fix his community and those in it reeling from recent crime. He was a compassionate neighbor, it seems, not a lunatic with a gun.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/thi...his-new-timeline-could-change-the-perception/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425

there is a purported timeline at the first link...i suggest reading it before passing judgment on him or this thread. it might just be true.
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how is it you cannot wait for the information that will come out in the trial
 
wiseones2cents said:
What we need is self governing that is not dependent and slave to a global monopoly of creditors that make money out of thin air and charge us interest for it,
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The government makes money out of thin air, but I've never heard of creditors doing it. See, you're really bitching about the government when you think you're bitching about business. Do Liberals ever understand what the fuck they're talking about?

Good Lord! My kingdom for a Liberal who doesn't talk out of his ass!!
 
Don Quixote said:
how is it you cannot wait for the information that will come out in the trial
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where do you get this insane notion i can't wait. from day one, i've said we should wait until more facts come out, either during a trial or the investigation. nothing in the OP remotely gives you the notion that i can't wait until trial. it is like you have preconceived notion of a poster and then you only see what you want to see in their post and ignore what is actually said. seriously don, i said flat out, to read it before passing judgment. how do you get from that i can't wait?
 
Yurt said:
where do you get this insane notion i can't wait. from day one, i've said we should wait until more facts come out, either during a trial or the investigation. nothing in the OP remotely gives you the notion that i can't wait until trial. it is like you have preconceived notion of a poster and then you only see what you want to see in their post and ignore what is actually said. seriously don, i said flat out, to read it before passing judgment. how do you get from that i can't wait?
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the fact that you started another thread on the subject - it has been talked to death
 
Don Quixote said:
the fact that you started another thread on the subject - it has been talked to death
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You mean like the way you talked it to death and then after you cast all your accusations and assumptions, you decided to wait until after the trail.
Did you mean like that, Don?
 
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