The Constitution is over, the government works for the oligarchs not us.
How Long Will The Shutdown Last.
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Well, maybe I was wrong on that point. Republicans want Trump's big ugly bill to go forward. Democrats want to maintain healthcare. If the Democrats give in, 15 million people will lose health care coverage. Along with a host of other bad things.
Diogenes
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OBBA is already law. It has been since July 4, 2025.
For whom?
No, they won't. If a few more Democrats defy Schumer and the clean CR passes the Senate, the clean CR itself would not cause 15 million people to lose health care coverage. It simply maintains government funding through November and includes no changes to health programs like Medicaid or ACA subsidies. Passage would end the shutdown immediately, allowing furloughed workers (e.g., 700,000+ federal employees and contractors) to return and Congress to negotiate longer-term funding and policy fixes separately.
Like what?
When the article came out doesn't matter. Next, everything is about the big ugly bill. Next, well you got a stack of papers that lay out the goals of project 2025. Then you have a president that goes along with most of what it says. (If not all of it) Who is it that is going to tell republicans what to support. Through an EO or otherwise. A stack of papers or the president. Next, some republicans may have came up with some of the provisions of the big ugly bill. But mostly, it was the president's doing. Congress just ironed out some of the details. And most of it came from 2 places. Project 2025 and Putin.
Diogenes
Nemo me impune lacessit
Only until the 2026 mid term elections. Which if there is any sanity left in this country and if the elections are still fair, most of the republicans will be gone. Then Trump can be impeached for treason. Which means every unqualified boot lick Trump appointed to a high office will be gone too. If given the choice, I will vote for Democratic Socialist. But at the very least, I will vote Democrat. That will put a huge dent into the plans of corporations and Plutocrats in general. Who knows, maybe we will even get what all the other developed nations have. Universal health care.
The Oligarchs finished taking over Washington during the Clinton years.....the chances of that changing near zero.....in fact the plan of the oligarchs is to completely enslave us.
You cant save yourself by voting D....only a revolution could do the job.
Well, turns out I wasn't wrong. I just did an AI search on the matter. It says, "Yes, Speaker Mike Johnson has kept House lawmakers, including Republicans, away from Washington." The reason why is most likely to prevent the swearing in of Adelita Grijalva. Because that would give Congress the votes it need to compel the justice department to release what it has on the Epstein Files. That is those things that haven't been burned, shredded, "flagged" or "Redacted."
Next, Medicaid "for whom?" AMERICANS! Illegals can't get Medicaid. As to what it all means, here's an article for you.
University of California, Berkeley
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What do the looming cuts to Medicaid really mean? | UC Berkeley Public Health
Democrats have only one weapon they can use. That is to not fund the government further until the republicans agree to do away with all the cuts to social programs in the big ugly bill. Next, "Like what?" Like just about everything. Wanting to be a dictator, kissing Putin's ass, wanting the U.S to get involved in Gaza, being anti-SCIENCE, etc. etc. etc.
No, I don't believe it. I KNOW it.
Voting Democrat will do much. But voting Democratic Socialist would do even more on that account.
Diogenes
Nemo me impune lacessit
It's the Senate that has to vote on the CR. The House already passed it.
Senate Democrats refuse to pass it without concessions, including:
- Rolling back nearly $1 trillion in Medicaid cuts .
- Permanently extending ACA premium tax credits (which were always understood to be temporary). Democrats passed two Acts in 2021 and 2022, and they mandated a provision that the subsidies would finally expire on December 31, 2025).
- Restoring funding for programs like NPR/PBS and overseas DEI initiatives defunded in the reconciliation package.
I anticipate that a few more Senate Democrats will flout Shutdown Schumer and vote to pass the CR before long, whether he likes it or not. Their constituents are about be affected by SNAP/EBT and Section 8 funds running out.
We shall see.
BTW, you do know that there's literally no place in America that is more than 12 hours away from DC by air, barring Hawaii, right? Representatives can be back in Washington very quickly.
The Government Accountability Office (GAO) has noted vulnerabilities in Medicaid enrollment processes, like inadequate verification in some states.
In addition, identity theft is a major issue. The Social Security Administration reported 1.2 million stolen SSNs used for employment or benefits in 2017.
As far as federal Medicaid spending cuts for Americans go, the "Big Beautiful Bill" (signed July 4, 2025) imposed aggressive changes, estimated by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) to reduce federal Medicaid spending by $1.1 trillion over a decade.
Key provisions include 80 hours/month of work, job training, or community service for childless adults and parents of children over age 6. Exemptions exist for pregnant women, caregivers, and disabled individuals.
Reduced Retroactive Coverage Cuts will slash pre-enrollment benefits from 3 months to 1 month.
Th law will also cap state provider taxes (used to draw federal matching funds) at 5.5% of payments, down from 6%, and reduces federal match grants from 90% to 80% in states using their own funds for coverage of certain immigrants (e.g., humanitarian parole holders).
OBBA also mandates twice-yearly redeterminations instead of annual ones.
Hopefully you know that every state manages and partially funds their own Medicaid program; it's not a purely federal program.
Diogenes
Nemo me impune lacessit
I don't believe that you do.
Dutch Uncle
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MAGAts only see what they want to see regardless of how much evidence you present.Well, turns out I wasn't wrong. I just did an AI search on the matter. It says, "Yes, Speaker Mike Johnson has kept House lawmakers, including Republicans, away from Washington." The reason why is most likely to prevent the swearing in of Adelita Grijalva. Because that would give Congress the votes it need to compel the justice department to release what it has on the Epstein Files. That is those things that haven't been burned, shredded, "flagged" or "Redacted."
Next, Medicaid "for whom?" AMERICANS! Illegals can't get Medicaid. As to what it all means, here's an article for you.
University of California, Berkeley
publichealth.berkeley.edu › home › news and media › commentary › what do the looming cuts to medicaid really mean?
What do the looming cuts to Medicaid really mean? | UC Berkeley Public Health
Democrats have only one weapon they can use. That is to not fund the government further until the republicans agree to do away with all the cuts to social programs in the big ugly bill. Next, "Like what?" Like just about everything. Wanting to be a dictator, kissing Putin's ass, wanting the U.S to get involved in Gaza, being anti-SCIENCE, etc. etc. etc.
T. A. Gardner
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Exactly what would Trump have to do to get the Democrats in the Senate to agree to reopen the government?
then stop lying about the length of programs you propose when you win elections
Democrats twice put those programs in to sunset so they could lie about the cost of all the spending programs
That is a fact. they can't save face with all the gas lighting and bullshit either. only morons fall for it.
oh...hi! you fell for it.
democrats are showing up to vote no on a clean funding bill dip shit. The GOP (and Fetterman) show up to vote yes
you are clearly the dumbest person in the room
democrats twice passed this subsidy to sunset
and now it sunsets
so fuck off you toxic piece of shit
The Dems did not close it. Trump did and it was likely deliberate. Opening the govrnment by giving the right all the things they want is not beneficial to the nation. You divorce the Project 2025 plans from the Dems right to defend the country from them. Do you uinderstand how illogical your pattened right wing resonse is?