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We are talking about bathtub USE... not production or installation you twit
Now you're just going to confuse him with facts and he'll get all upset.
We are talking about bathtub USE... not production or installation you twit
fuck mexico we are talking this country
Cesare Beccaria (Philosopher, politician & criminologist) 1794: "False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm those only who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
Not changing the subject. Just replying to others' remarks.
I originally said the stepfather should be charged with a crime, under one or more of the hundreds of thousands of laws already in existence everywhere in this nation. I further said that no one should own a gun without a way to securely store it, adding that if one cannot afford a gun safe, one cannot afford to own a gun. I still feel that way. The stepfather should be arrested, charged, and sentenced to a prison term, and that event should be widely reported--at least as widely reported as the original tragedy. It has been proven that certainty of punishment is far more effective a deterrent to crime than severity of punishment that is rarely given. And make no mistake about it. What happened here was a crime.
OK "evince"? Back on subject?
Bullshit. The MOST basic tenet of the 2A is a gun in the home, period. To KEEP and bear arms.
So this was not 'unfettered, absolute access.' It was owning and keeping a gun.....and the idiot didnt secure it around small children.
Parents have to do many things to protect their kids in the home, even against deadly things, so it's not just about guns. These parent f*d up.
3-Year-Old Colorado Boy Dies From Accidental Gunshot
A 3-year-old Colorado boy has died after what authorities say was "an accidental gunshot wound to the head."
Police in Frederick, Colo., a town about 30 miles north of Denver, said Tuesday that the boy has been identified as Sheine Steine, according to the Longmont Times-Call.
"We have no reason to believe this was other than an accidental firing of the gun while the child handled it," Frederick Police Chief Gary Barbour said in a statement.
Police arrived at the boy's home Monday morning around 10 a.m. after Steine's mother Dione Warren found him on the ground, not breathing and bleeding from the head. Despite the amount of blood, Warren told 911 she thought the boy had fallen and struck his head on a bedside table. According to 7News, police found the preschooler's body next to his mother's bed and a semiautomatic handgun next to his head.
Police said that the bullet had ricocheted off the wall, leaving blood spatter evidence behind, and then landed on the bed where it was found.
The boy was rushed to Exempla Good Samaritan Medical Center in Lafayette Monday morning, but was pronounced dead at 11:15 a.m..
KDVR reports that the gun, a .40-caliber Glock, was legally owned by the boy's stepfather, identified as Jeremy McCollem, who was not at home during the shooting.
According to Denver's CBS affiliate, the shooting remains under investigation, with authorities still determining who shot the gun and if the gun was locked up.
Too bad there wasn't a good three-tear-old with a gun to prevent this senseless shooting!
Cesare Beccaria (Philosopher, politician & criminologist) 1794: "False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm those only who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
a sword is just the same so get a sword instead.
kids cant kill themselves as easily with them
why would you say that NO one was ever hurt?
Sorry. My bad. Now that I know the audience, instead of quoting 18th century philosophers to make a point, I'll try and find something for you from reality TV.Horseshit!
Another case of a tragedy that could have been avoided or minimized. An open gun safe is not a safe. Mentally disturbed kid, and his mother leaves unsecured guns out. Too late to prosecute her, since her drugged son killed her first. If the principal of the school had a Glock in a locked drawer, she could have been a hero instead of a victim. Nut cases like Lanza always cave when confronted with deadly force. One shot from her gun, and he'd have run or maybe even shot himself then, rather than later. Instead we make teachers be martyrs. Then we pass more laws against law abiding citizens. AR-15s? More people are murdered every year in the U.S. with baseball bats than with all rifles (source: FBI "Crime in the United States 2012"), of which AR's are only a portion.
No one mentions that in 100% of mass murders in modern times, the perps were either on, or previously on, behavior altering drugs. When I was a kid, it was easier to get a gun. You could buy a rifle at the Western Auto store or Sears. However, behavior problems were not treated with drugs, and guess what? One almost never heard of mass murders. Now we have expensive and punitive gun control laws, with kids on prescription mind-altering drugs, playing video games with nonstop killing and watching movies where heroes and criminals alike are nonstop killers. But then Hollywood and the drug companies are big political contributors, so they can't even share in the responsibility for what happens, nor can absentee parents.
End of rant...for now!
Horseshit!
PCSO: Arizona boy, 14, dies driving girl, 13, boy, 9
The boy took his family's vehicle without permission Monday and was speeding down Shires Road northbound when he lost control of the vehicle and it rolled several times.
The owner of the car should be charged with a crime, for not having a KEY SAFE.
Do you also promote this idea?
I don't disagree with required training. Background checks are already the law. I might require a statement on the Form 4473: Do you affirm that you have locked secure storage for this firearm? What I would not do is the "checkups to see how people are storing". In case of an accident, the police investigating would check for presence of a gun safe. If none, then a federal charge (lying on Form 4473) could be added to the reckless endangerment, negligent homicide, etc. We cannot have more police state invasions of privacy, that are so easily abused. We have enough out of control government agencies already (DHS, for example.)
yeah, the bullet in the chamber one shows that Jarod has a very limited understanding of guns.
No, they need a safe big enough to hold their gun(s). For $70 and 20lbs, you can get this:You're assuming all gun owners live in their own property. Suppose someone lives in a multi-story apartment complex. You're going to tell them they need a 900+lbs safe in their 3rd story unit to exercise their Constitutional right? You are, despite your claims otherwise, incredibly anti freedom.
All that needs to be said.No, they need a safe big enough to hold their gun(s). For $70 and 20lbs, you can get this:
http://www.amazon.com/SentrySafe-X0...F8&qid=1383164293&sr=8-7&keywords=pistol+safe
This will hold a couple of handguns easily. It can be bolted to a wall or shelf, but its main value is keeping out curious hands. A thief could take the whole thing. If I had it in an apartment, I'd bolt it to something not easily moved. No. It would not work for a rifle. If I couldn't have a safe for the rifle, I'd probably take it apart, or at least remove the bolt and put a cable lock through it.
No one thinks they're anti-freedom, but many many people are. Bad precedent, good intentioned or not, will not magically lead to good precedent in the future, and you openly advocate for bad precedent.And, no, I don't think I'm anti freedom.
This is the mantra of all anti-freedom thinkers the world over. That that actions of the few should be the condemnation of all.With rights come responsibilities. We have too many people in this country exercising rights and not acting responsibly.
And yet you do not propose limiting the 1A rights of other because of the irresponsibility of this individual. Yet that is, indirectly, exactly what you fight for. Rights that we as a people have won do not exist in individual vaccums where you can infringe upon one with impunity and expect that similar infringements will not occurs to others. They exist together as a whole and what you do to one will inevitably befall others. It is no coincidence that Diane Feinstein, one of the most fascist members of Congress our country has ever seen, not only supports 'gun control' but supports the idea of the government determining who is and is not a 'legitimate journalist'.I think the first amendment is one where irresponsible rights exercising has hurt many people (thinking of the Gannett newspaper reporter who published a list of gun owners in her county.)
And such precautions are individual in nature, or do you pretend that a singular model for a country of over 300,000,000 people can possibly exist?If you're going to own something as dangerous as a gun, you are responsible for securing it.