About that J-6 So-Called 'Insurrection' NONSENSE

Matt Dillon said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Jeezus, you do shovel it greatly when proven wrong! Throwing any and everything out there in hopes for a cloud cover of the basic flaw in your premise.

1. I didn't "assert" about the Epps story, I PROVED it to be bogus propaganda using a collection of valid, documented FACTS. See, if you had actually read the contents of the source carefully and comprehensively, you would have seen the internal links for documentation.

2. You think trying to isolate various articles with out of context quotes accompanied BY YOUR BIAS OPINION is proof that Epps is a legitimate story. Hint: it isn't, because the intellectually honest reader will read the contents of my link carefully and comprehensively to see your folly.

3. D'Souza as a source??!?! A convicted criminal with a documented history of right wing bias and lies. Puh-leeze!

4. Again, your personal conclusions are of no consequence because you just re-arrange and edit out information available to suit your agenda. That dog of yours won't fly.


If the FBI removes a picture, it means its agents no longer need the public’s assistance in identifying him, Daniel Richman, a former federal prosecutor who was an advisor to former FBI Director James B. Comey, told us in a phone interview.

There are many reasons that the FBI would remove Epps’ photo without filing charges during an ongoing investigation, Richman said, including that he may have spoken to investigators and clarified his role or that he is cooperating with investigators and may implicate others.

“It’s very much a work in progress from the government’s perspective,” said Richman, who also was a consultant to the Department of Justice.

It’s worth noting that Epps’ picture isn’t the only one the FBI has removed. The bureau has also removed photos of individuals numbered 310, 311 and 312, for example. In other cases, the FBI has labeled those in the pictures as having been arrested — individual number 313 is an example of that.

The most common charge for those arrested following Jan. 6 is entering or remaining in a restricted federal building, so it’s also noteworthy that none of the videos included in Revolver’s posts show Epps inside the Capitol building. In fact, two of them appear to show Epps trying to mitigate confrontation between protesters and police outside.

Barbara McQuade, a former U.S. attorney who co-chaired the attorney general’s advisory committee’s terrorism and national security subcommittee, told us something similar to Richman in an email.

“It is quite possible that insufficient evidence exists to charge him with a crime, either because his conduct did not amount to criminal behavior or the facts cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt,” she said. “It could also be that he has agreed to cooperate, and so any charges are being deferred until prosecutors are able to assess the value of his cooperation.”

McQuade also noted that inciting violence at a protest would violate the FBI’s Domestic Investigations and Operation Guide, which, she said, “prohibits the FBI from interfering https://www.factcheck.org/2022/01/ja...bout-ray-epps/
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All of what you're claiming hinges on this: "Daniel Richman, a former federal prosecutor who was an advisor to former FBI Director James B. Comey, told us in a phone interview.". Everything you claim does, and that's not facts or anything, that's just what

he says, ergo..no real evidence. Nothing but an argument from authority fallacy with literally zero evidence. The evidence speaks as to otherwise. And it's not like the FBI doesn't violate a lot of things. (these days)

The 4th amendment, entrapment laws; The FBI doesn't care about the Constitution. :nono:

You lose.
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I do wish you would stop lying about the content of articles, Matt. Anyone with a high school GED can read ALL the evidence and see the conclusion that the Epps defense is nothing more than hear-say, myopic views and basic BS.

Oh, and your final sentence drops titles and such, but you cannot logically PROVE these violations beyond your opinion. Epps was videoed in his participation in Jan. 6th....he did provide testimony to the Select Committee. He was a participant...perhaps not an organizer. The conspiracy against him just don't add up https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...6-committee-crazy-conspiracy-theori-rcna63615
 
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Taichiliberal said:
I do wish you would stop lying about the content of articles, Matt. Anyone with a high school GED can read ALL the evidence and see the conclusion that the Epps defense is nothing more than hear-say, myopic views and basic BS.

Oh, and your final sentence drops titles and such, but you cannot logically PROVE these violations beyond your opinion. Epps was videoed in his participation in Jan. 6th....he did provide testimony to the Select Committee. He was a participant...perhaps not an organizer. The conspiracy against him just don't add up https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...6-committee-crazy-conspiracy-theori-rcna63615
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NBC are full of shit propagandists. What Ray Epps tells them in an interview and what the facts are may not be the same things.

Oh, he told the "1/6 Committee" he wasn't working with the FBI, so it must be true, right? WRONG!!!

There's no evidence either way on that. We're not privy to FBI internal records.
 
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Matt Dillon said:
NBC are full of shit propagandists. What Ray Epps tells them in an interview and what the facts are may not be the same things.
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translation: typical MAGA denial....any and everyone is a liar that tells you something you don't like. But somehow YOU determine what is the truth. How, divine province? Puh-leeze! All you are doing is a rehash of the babble Trump and his sycophants put out. Ain't working for them, ain't working for you.

The Jan. 6th clowns are going down...all that sail with them will have the stink that won't wash off. Any attempt to minimize such looks preposterous.
 
Taichiliberal said:
translation: typical MAGA denial....any and everyone is a liar that tells you something you don't like. But somehow YOU determine what is the truth. How, divine province? Puh-leeze! All you are doing is a rehash of the babble Trump and his sycophants put out. Ain't working for them, ain't working for you.

The Jan. 6th clowns are going down...all that sail with them will have the stink that won't wash off. Any attempt to minimize such looks preposterous.
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You seem to have difficulty distinguishing between actual facts and what people say and what you're told to think. I don't.

Now you're trying to gaslight me. Weaksauce.

You're not liberal, and I highly doubt you had a proper liberal education like I did. My degree is in "Liberal Arts" :laugh: For all the fucks that's worth. Hey man, them profs were pretty damn good when I was going to school.

Even if they were liberal faggots, they still taught by the right methods and the right stuff. And "liberal" back in them days was NOT the Social Marxist authoritarians of today; Not at all. :nono:

Liberals don't try to shut down others' points of view, they listen to them and try to learn from them and establish a dialogue. That's not your M.O., brah.

Liberals DO do determine what the truth is for themselves; That's what it's all about, bro. You take in the available information and form your own opinion based on it.

Ofc the network media was not as much of propaganda outlets back then, that wasn't allowed. They simply reported the facts and left the people to form their own opinions.

That didn't even start until ..lemme think here..around the mid-1990s. Before that, the news had to be factual. There was no telling people what to think in the news. The people would have hanged all of them, and the government would have been

complicit.
 
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I'm watching the footage right now.

It was as bad as it gets. It 100% was an attempted insurrection. It was not a protest - at least 3/4 of the people there were violent, or expressed violent intent. They were out of control, and rabid.

It was so bad.
 
Matt Dillon said:
You seem to have difficulty distinguishing between actual facts and what people say and what you're told to think. I don't.

Now you're trying to gaslight me. Weaksauce.

You're not liberal, and I highly doubt you had a proper liberal education like I did. My degree is in "Liberal Arts" :laugh: For all the fucks that's worth. Hey man, them profs were pretty damn good when I was going to school.

Even if they were liberal faggots, they still taught by the right methods and the right stuff. And "liberal" back in them days was NOT the Social Marxist authoritarians of today; Not at all. :nono:

Liberals don't try to shut down others' points of view, they listen to them and try to learn from them and establish a dialogue. That's not your M.O., brah.

Liberals DO do determine what the truth is for themselves; That's what it's all about, bro. You take in the available information and form your own opinion based on it.

Ofc the network media was not as much of propaganda outlets back then, that wasn't allowed. They simply reported the facts and left the people to form their own opinions.

That didn't even start until ..lemme think here..around the mid-1990s. Before that, the news had to be factual. There was no telling people what to think in the news. The people would have hanged all of them, and the government would have been

complicit.
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:palm: I not trying to "gaslight" you, Matt....you're just gassed up!

Your circular logic is just pathetic.....you've twice now blathered some postulated insanity that a valid, documented fact that you don't like is not actually a fact. :wha: Worse, you have yet to explain to the reading audience how YOU determine what news sources are valid, if any and all others are "fake news". Seriously, what you put down here would make Kelly Anne Conway blush.

The chronology of the post deconstructs your MAGA machinations......it did happen, it was an attempted insurrection by a riotous mob. Those caught will be prosecuted, many will be jailed. All Trump sycophants in the Congress will NOT be able to get his stink off of them, nor erase their video taped treasonous actions of that day from the public consciousness.

Your personal opinion of me and your preposterous speculations are worthless time consumers. The chronology of the posts will always be your undoing. If you have nothing further other than repeating the same guff, I'll just ignore you and move on to the next topic. Carry on.
 
Taichiliberal said:
:palm: I not trying to "gaslight" you, Matt....you're just gassed up!

Your circular logic is just pathetic.....you've twice now blathered some postulated insanity that a valid, documented fact that you don't like is not actually a fact. :wha: Worse, you have yet to explain to the reading audience how YOU determine what news sources are valid, if any and all others are "fake news". Seriously, what you put down here would make Kelly Anne Conway blush.

The chronology of the post deconstructs your MAGA machinations......it did happen, it was an attempted insurrection by a riotous mob. Those caught will be prosecuted, many will be jailed. All Trump sycophants in the Congress will NOT be able to get his stink off of them, nor erase their video taped treasonous actions of that day from the public consciousness.

Your personal opinion of me and your preposterous speculations are worthless time consumers. The chronology of the posts will always be your undoing. If you have nothing further other than repeating the same guff, I'll just ignore you and move on to the next topic. Carry on.
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^That ain't nuthin' but a bunch of bullshit, brah. Devoid of facts and long on unsupported assertions.

You don't know how to aggregate news sources from a bunch of different sources and determine what you can tell is real by combining all they say and making an informed decision? That's the esence of "Liberal".

I feel sorry for you. I reckon you got cheated on your education. Idk what else to say. :dunno: That you find it outrageous and unbelievable that I CAN do that is..well damn, sad. :(

200 years worth of Americans were taught the same way I was. I don't know what the fuck happened to you, but it wasn't that. I didn't do it. I wish I knew how to fix what happened to you, but I don't. I'd like to know if anyone does.
 
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Matt Dillon said:
Where did Pelosi refuse to provide extra security like Trump requested?
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It did not happen. She was doing Trump's job and calling everyone who might possibly have police to stop the insurrection. She was asking for favors because she had no troops under her authority.
 
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You've got video of Pelosi calling the governor and asking for National Guard/cops support....Schumer chiming in that he should call Trump to make a public plea for the yahoos to stand down (it took Dump what, 3 hours before he did so?). So let's cut all his MAGA crap and deal with reality, folks.
 
Nordberg said:
It did not happen. She was doing Trump's job and calling everyone who might possibly have police to stop the insurrection. She was asking for favors because she had no troops under her authority.
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"Chief Sund begged repeatedly for troops but has testified that Irving rebuffed him over concern about “optics.” During the violence on Jan. 6, Sund repeated his request, but help was delayed until after the riot ended, because Irving needed to run it up the chain of command, a.k.a. Pelosi.

“The Speaker’s office was heavily involved in planning and decision-making before and during the events of Jan. 6, 2021, and micromanaged the Sergeant at Arms.” "

No, NerdSperg, no. :nono:

https://nypost.com/2022/12/21/house-gop-report-faults-nancy-pelosi-for-jan-6-security-failures/
 
Matt Dillon said:
"Chief Sund begged repeatedly for troops but has testified that Irving rebuffed him over concern about “optics.” During the violence on Jan. 6, Sund repeated his request, but help was delayed until after the riot ended, because Irving needed to run it up the chain of command, a.k.a. Pelosi.

“The Speaker’s office was heavily involved in planning and decision-making before and during the events of Jan. 6, 2021, and micromanaged the Sergeant at Arms.” "

No, NerdSperg, no. :nono:

https://nypost.com/2022/12/21/house-gop-report-faults-nancy-pelosi-for-jan-6-security-failures/
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Meanwhile, Ex-President Trump was organizing an insurrection with thousand of people. Yes, Pelosi was calling anyone who had troops to send them in. The phone calls are on video. That is a fact. We never had an insurrection before, so no they did not have thousands of troops standing by. Who thought that would happen? Pelosi was not micromanaging anything. Everything was set up as it always was in a ceremonial certification of electoral college votes.
 
Nordberg said:
Meanwhile, Ex-President Trump was organizing an insurrection with thousand of people. Yes, Pelosi was calling anyone who had troops to send them in. The phone calls are on video. That is a fact. We never had an insurrection before, so no they did not have thousands of troops standing by. Who thought that would happen? Pelosi was not micromanaging anything. Everything was set up as it always was in a ceremonial certification of electoral college votes.
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So you can post proof of that, correct? :rolleyes:
 
Concart said:
Only a treasonous scumbag like you would defend the insurrectionists.
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Trying to exercise your 1st amendment rights is not insurrection.

You're just a lame-brain commie douchebag.

FALN was insurrection, and Clinton and Obama let them go after they killed people. Innocent people.

They didn't only bust into Congress and shoot people, they also blew people up in NY.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Trying to exercise your 1st amendment rights is not insurrection.

You're just a lame-brain commie douchebag.

FALN was insurrection, and Clinton and Obama let them go after they killed people. Innocent people.
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Trump organized an insurrection on 1-6. We all know that and we watched it live. It was designed to do what it almost accomplished, stopping the certification of the electoral votes.
I wonder what Trump had planned if he succeeded and congress delayed the vote? There had to be continuing plans for the takeover.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Trying to exercise your 1st amendment rights is not insurrection.

You're just a lame-brain commie douchebag.

FALN was insurrection, and Clinton and Obama let them go after they killed people. Innocent people.

They didn't only bust into Congress and shoot people, they also blew people up in NY.
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Attack police officers, trespassing on capitol grounds and destroying government property is not covered by the first amendment.

They were arrested and removed from the Capitol. They made no attempt to interfere with a government function. Your whataboutism is an epic fail, because you are an epic fucking moron. And a traitor.
 
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