Advice for my fellow liberals and progressives.

Bernie Sanders tried the more race neutral approach and would often couch his rhetoric in more class terms. He got a lot of pushback for that however.
 
evince said:
12% of Bernie voters switched to Trump
Both Sanders and Trump were being helped by Russians
So was Jill Stein
All were trashing Hilary
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The Hildabeast deserved to be trashed and then some. She is easily the most corrupt, mendacious, narcissistic, and evil person to run for president in modern US history. She makes Nixon look like a saint.
 
Mina said:
I've noticed a tendency for liberals and progressives to talk about racial inequities as if talking about them will win people over to their cause, but I think it tends to do the opposite. It may not be fair, but when an issue is framed as being particularly important for racial minorities, it will tend to trigger reflexive opposition from white people.
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Ya think? Btw, Liberals and Progressives are not even close to the same thing.
 
The subject actually made me think of the police vis a vis how do you get how do you get more buy in for police reform. Looking at the data police kill more white Americans (and unarmed white Americans) than any other race. Of course we often look at proportionality and within that there is a difference. But if the discussion is about getting white buy in then stating the statistics show white people are at risk might help? For example before George Floyd there was Tony Timpa. But how many people have actually heard of Tony Timpa? My guess is not many yet he was a white man killed by police (around 2016?) the same way George Floyd was. The media didn't give it any coverage. There were no protests on his behalf. Again, we're talking about getting white buy in.

(Now one might say many white people don't know anyone killed by the police and thus this won't work but you never know.)
 
cawacko said:
The subject actually made me think of the police vis a vis how do you get how do you get more buy in for police reform. Looking at the data police kill more white Americans (and unarmed white Americans) than any other race. Of course we often look at proportionality and within that there is a difference. But if the discussion is about getting white buy in then stating the statistics show white people are at risk might help? For example before George Floyd there was Tony Timpa. But how many people have actually heard of Tony Timpa? My guess is not many yet he was a white man killed by police (around 2016?) the same way George Floyd was. The media didn't give it any coverage. There were no protests on his behalf. Again, we're talking about getting white buy in.

(Now one might say many white people don't know anyone killed by the police and thus this won't work but you never know.)
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what do you mean by police reform?
 
AssHatZombie said:
wrong.

it was trumps anti globalism and hillary's traitorous, clown-like, and corrupt retardation that clinched it.
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It was the Russians ass bag


Republicans gave ALL their voting info from nation wide to the Russians


Remember you fucking idiot
 
https://www.justsecurity.org/75766/...ave-campaign-polling-data-to-kremlin-in-2016/


US Treasury Provides Missing Link: Manafort’s Partner Gave Campaign Polling Data to Kremlin in 2016
by Justin Hendrix
April 15, 2021


The U.S. Treasury Department said Thursday that Konstantin Kilimnik, an associate and ex-employee of Paul Manafort, “provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy,” during the 2016 election, an apparently definitive statement that neither Special Counsel Robert Mueller nor the Senate Intelligence Committee investigation made in their final reports.

“This is new public information that connects the provision of internal Trump campaign data to Russian intelligence,” Andrew Weissmann, who led the prosecution of Manafort for the Special Counsel, told Just Security on Thursday.
 
evince said:
It was the Russians ass bag


Republicans gave ALL their voting info from nation wide to the Russians


Remember you fucking idiot
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russiagate has been debunked.

and durham is bringing charges on the perpetrators of the abuse of power treason agaisnt sitting president trump.
 
evince said:
https://www.justsecurity.org/75766/...ave-campaign-polling-data-to-kremlin-in-2016/


US Treasury Provides Missing Link: Manafort’s Partner Gave Campaign Polling Data to Kremlin in 2016
by Justin Hendrix
April 15, 2021


The U.S. Treasury Department said Thursday that Konstantin Kilimnik, an associate and ex-employee of Paul Manafort, “provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy,” during the 2016 election, an apparently definitive statement that neither Special Counsel Robert Mueller nor the Senate Intelligence Committee investigation made in their final reports.

“This is new public information that connects the provision of internal Trump campaign data to Russian intelligence,” Andrew Weissmann, who led the prosecution of Manafort for the Special Counsel, told Just Security on Thursday.
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It’s been proven idiot
 
The Mueller investigation uncovered that Manafort had directed his associate Rick Gates to provide Kilimnik with polling data repeatedly throughout the summer of 2016, but it was unable to conclude what Kilimnik did with that information afterward. The 448-page Mueller Report, released in a redacted version on April 18, 2019, stated:
 
Now it’s been proven what he did with the data


They worked with the Russians


It’s cold hard facts
 
evince said:
https://www.justsecurity.org/75766/...ave-campaign-polling-data-to-kremlin-in-2016/


US Treasury Provides Missing Link: Manafort’s Partner Gave Campaign Polling Data to Kremlin in 2016
by Justin Hendrix
April 15, 2021


The U.S. Treasury Department said Thursday that Konstantin Kilimnik, an associate and ex-employee of Paul Manafort, “provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy,” during the 2016 election, an apparently definitive statement that neither Special Counsel Robert Mueller nor the Senate Intelligence Committee investigation made in their final reports.

“This is new public information that connects the provision of internal Trump campaign data to Russian intelligence,” Andrew Weissmann, who led the prosecution of Manafort for the Special Counsel, told Just Security on Thursday.
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The link is now proven idiot
 
Mina said:
Yes. Obviously, if they were, I wouldn't have listed them both that way.
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Stop right there. You're very close to becoming my new plaything. You don't want that.

I said they are not the same thing and your response to that, after quoting me, was to say you "listed" them the same way.

I'm starting to think you're retarded.
 
Guille said:
You responded to yourself and called yourself an idiot.

*sigh* I don't even know how to deal with you any more. Are glue factories still a thing?
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You NEVER knew how to deal with me


You are a mental and emotional cripple


You don’t honor facts


So you suck at this stuff
 
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