American Suicide Bombers

ThatOwlWoman said:
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This is perfect
 
Suicide bomber is a terrible exaggeration. These people are not guaranteed to die. The truth is it will kill a small percentage of them. It will spread to others and kill a small percentage of them too. It will spread Corona but Repubs do not care. They are protected by Trump and their religion.
 
Nordberg said:
Suicide bomber is a terrible exaggeration. These people are not guaranteed to die. The truth is it will kill a small percentage of them. It will spread to others and kill a small percentage of them too. It will spread Corona but Repubs do not care. They are protected by Trump and their religion.
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you're a moronic, hate-filled simpleton.
 
Nordberg said:
Suicide bomber is a terrible exaggeration. These people are not guaranteed to die. The truth is it will kill a small percentage of them. It will spread to others and kill a small percentage of them too. It will spread Corona but Repubs do not care. They are protected by Trump and their religion.
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Indeed.

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Eagle-Eye said:
There are three groups.
1. The protesters you refer to I wouldn't call them suicide bombers but rather idiots playing Russian roulette with those they come in contact with.
2. The sane people who listen and take necessary precautions to stay safe.
3. The nut jobs that will go so far as to where hazmat suites (exaggeration) when they go out.

If people will use a little common sense and listen to the experts we will all get through this.
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Fucking pussy.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Hyperbole or reality? You decide. In this well-reasoned opinion piece, the author makes the argument that the morons (my word) protesting state protective measures are the moral equivalent of a suicide bomber.

"The Post reported Sunday far-right militias, led by three brothers, have used Facebook to organize “anti-quarantine protests” at state capitols around the country. Tens of thousands have joined their Facebook group, giving the impression that a “populist libertarianism” sentiment is emerging more than opinion surveys would suggest.
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"This activity is being amplified by the president, who appeared last week on Twitter to encourage armed resistance to state-based initiatives aimed at containing the novel coronavirus pandemic with orders to stay home. The “protests” were in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and others swing states Donald Trump needs to win reelection.

"Meanwhile, the Pew Center, which is the gold standard for measuring public opinion, released a new survey in which 66 percent of Americans fear their state governments will lift restrictions “too quickly.” Sixty-five percent said “Trump’s initial response” to the COVID-19 pandemic was “too slow.” Moreover, 73 percent said the worst is yet to come. (Implicit is the widespread doubt of Washington’s ability to face the challenge.)

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"To be sure, “silent majority” is what fascists have said for decades when they need to contravene a rapidly changing view on, say, an overseas war going south. “Silent majority” is what a literal minority invokes to smash a literal majority in the face. Even so, Nixon’s words should resonate right now when 41,000 Americans are dead from COVID-19. “If a vocal minority, however fervent its cause, prevails over reason and the will of the majority, this nation has no future as a free society,” Nixon said. Individuals can’t be truly free. In the collective, however, can be found the meaning of freedom.

"In this sense, the protesters have it backwards. They believe (or pretend to believe; more on that in a moment) that government coercion is the opposite of individual freedom. Stay-at-home orders infringe their liberty. If they want to risk getting sick—or dying—that’s their right. No government has the authority to tell them otherwise.

"This thinking ignores the fact that one person’s right to liberty ends with another person’s right to security, and that all governments are charged with balancing all of those rights for everyone’s sake. (Whether a government is striking the right balance is usually reflected by the majority view.) For this reason, coercion is not the opposite of freedom during a pandemic. Coercion, at least for now, is in the service of freedom. Only when everyone is acting in everyone else’s interest can this crisis be overcome."

https://stoehr.substack.com/p/trumps-armed-and-infectious-insurgents
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This take is anything but "well reasoned". The statement that I bolded is absurd on its face. A person doesn't have a right to security derived from depriving another of their first amendment rights. To suggest such is laughable.
 
Nordberg said:
He has a 5th-grade vocabulary and makes little sense when he speaks. I think he is quite stupid but has a real gift as a conman. Who would have thought that NY real estate liar could con almost half a nation?
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He isn't really fooling anyone with his Bullshit! Most of his Trumpsters even know better, but they are just as sinister as he is and he is a leader for their sinister causes.
 
Sorry, Stinky, not today. Not tomorrow either.

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Sirthinksalot said:
This take is anything but "well reasoned". The statement that I bolded is absurd on its face. A person doesn't have a right to security derived from depriving another of their first amendment rights. To suggest such is laughable.
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What would happen to you if you yelled fire in a crowded place?
What would happen to you if you posted you planned to harm the president?

Both of those things are free speech but also against the law. Sorry but there are limits on 1st amendment freedom of speech rights.
 
Here's your "freedom fighters" in action.
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It was her scheduled day off from the intensive care unit at a hospital in Phoenix, where she takes care of patients who have contracted COVID-19.

She found out that morning that a rally was planned at the Arizona Capitol building. People weary of schools and businesses across the state being closed because of the new coronavirus were going to call for closures to be lifted and the state to be reopened.

Lauren Leander texted a few nurses she knew, seeing if anyone wanted to join her there.

Leander had seen photos of medical workers at similar rallies in other states, their presence serving as a counterweight to calls to reopen businesses. She was inspired to do the same at the rally in her home state on Monday.

"That was the kind of action we could take against something like this," Leander said.

She would spend the next few hours standing silent, her facial expressions partly hidden behind her medical mask. Her body standing rigid in surgical scrubs.

Leander said she heard a stream of insults from rallygoers. People accused her of being an actor. Or, if a real nurse, one who performed dentistry. Or performed abortions.

Leander gave a brief interview to a television station but did not engage with the people walking by. Most were living their beliefs that concerns about the virus were overblown. They were not keeping apart from each other. Most did not wear masks.

She was surprised at the anger directed at her. She wasn’t a politician, after all, but a health care worker. Someone whose job it is to take care of people, whether for an illness caused by the new coronavirus, or some other ailment.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...ked-and-silent-rally-open-arizona/3001723001/
 
Eagle-Eye said:
What would happen to you if you yelled fire in a crowded place?
What would happen to you if you posted you planned to harm the president?

Both of those things are free speech but also against the law. Sorry but there are limits on 1st amendment freedom of speech rights.
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this is neither from your narrow set of examples.
 
Eagle-Eye said:
What would happen to you if you yelled fire in a crowded place?
What would happen to you if you posted you planned to harm the president?

Both of those things are free speech but also against the law. Sorry but there are limits on 1st amendment freedom of speech rights.
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Some ppl seem to think that their personal freedom to do whatever is absolute. Isn't there a quote that says something to the effect that my freedom to swing my fists around stops at your nose?
 
look, you ocd totalitarian fucksticks, if you're afraid of germs, you shelter in place, then go fuck yourselves.

america stays free, and if you don't like it, come packin.
 
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