An honest question on assault rifles.

BodyDouble said:
A civil right is a Constitutional right. A right to keep a firearm is also a Constitutional right. It's not an "urge" to own a weapon. It is a right. An AR-15 is not a military weapon. The military doesn't use them and never will. During the "assault" weapons ban, I bought several real "assault" weapons. Semi-auto, used in the military at one time assault weapons. And I plunked down cash and walked out the door that same day with the semi-auto "assault" weapon. Several has a bayonets installed on them as well. And some just had bayonet lugs. And they were bought at a chain sporting goods store in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. That's how stupid your liberal ban worked out. And you can't be so, so stupid to believe that these scary-looking guns that you idiots claim are "military grade assault weapons" will not be allowed to be bought and sold again.
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Is it a right to keep ANY firearm? I'll spare you your inevitable stupid shit response.

No.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Are you really this fucking stupid? Comparing the Civil Rights movement to this urge to own a weapon? Guess what stupid? if there were no seats in the back of the bus (standing room only) but seats in the front during the Jim Crow/segregation days, Rosa couldn't ride and would have to wait for the next bus? Why, her money was just as good as a white persons. Get the picture, stupid?

You have a right to a weapon, but NOT military grade ones....not full automatics, and for a brief time not semi-auto assault weapons. America got along fine with the AWB....crime didn't go through the roof. Deal with it.

Don't you EVER think to get away with that stupidity again.
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So much for the feigned "honest question" nonsense.
 
Taichiliberal said:
No shit sherlock....thanks for providing proof that a hunting rifle, or a shotgun or a handgun could have done the exact same thing! Or are you saying different? History would school you better, my little bigot.
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I have handled firearms, but I am no weapons expert.
But this forum's self-appointed weapons experts really do not seem like they really know what they are talking about. An AR15 is a fair to middling self defense weapon. It is actually useless as a carry and conceal, and when you are in in your house a shotgun is the best weapon known to mankind for overwhelming close quarters firepower. And I know this shit without even being a true professional expert on firearms.

p.s., I commend you for starting this thread, because I have seen some overt and tacit admissions here of the actual reasons a lot of gun humpers actually want to have assault rifles -- nothing of which have to do with any of the traditional reasons for having a firearm. And I really do not think these Rambo wannabes are actually part of a "well regulated militia" tasked with defending the country. Really, their pea shooters would be inconsequential and utterly ineffective against an invading army with modern equipment. Wolverines!!
 
Truth Detector said:
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^^A demonstration of Taichi :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
Taichiliberal said:
As to your first sentence....no shit sherlock! That doesn't change the fact that your earlier comparison of gun ownership to human beings rights sans racism & bigotry is the most absurd thing I've read to come out of the fringe right wing mindset to date.
As to the rest of your NRA playbook parroting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_style_rifle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon[/url]


https://www.csgv.org/issues-archive/assault-weapons-faq/
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Taichiliberal said:
No shit sherlock....thanks for providing proof that a hunting rifle, or a shotgun or a handgun could have done the exact same thing!
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Name a hunting rifle, shot gun, or handgun that could have done the exact same thing as the AR-15 that was PROVEN to do the job quite handily. I...We'll wait...

Taichiliberal said:
Or are you saying different? History would school you better, my little bigot.
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The only point I PROVED is that an AR-15 serves quite well as a self-defense weapon, my little dunce.
 
domer76 said:
Is it a right to keep ANY firearm? I'll spare you your inevitable stupid shit response.

No.
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And to Cypress, who was stupid enough to "Thank" your above quoted dip-shit like post...

...you're just as stupid as domerdunce, aren't you.<<< (notice that is a period and not a question mark as that wasn't a question.)
 
Taichiliberal said:
Are you really this fucking stupid? Comparing the Civil Rights movement to this urge to own a weapon? Guess what stupid? if there were no seats in the back of the bus (standing room only) but seats in the front during the Jim Crow/segregation days, Rosa couldn't ride and would have to wait for the next bus? Why, her money was just as good as a white persons. Get the picture, stupid?

You have a right to a weapon, but NOT military grade ones....not full automatics, and for a brief time not semi-auto assault weapons. America got along fine with the AWB....crime didn't go through the roof. Deal with it.

Don't you EVER think to get away with that stupidity again.
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Actually, even the anti-2nd United States v. Miller decision held that it was exactly "military grade" weapons that were protected. "Assault weapon" is just a made-up term to describe scary-looking guns. In the real world, it's totally meaningless. Also, the AWB had no measurable effect on anything. The usual ninsense and wishful thinking.
 
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Taichiliberal said:
Someone please explain to me what is so special about the #AR15 (style) assault rifle(s) that can't be done with the myriad of shotguns, hunting rifles, revolvers and semi-automatic handguns that have been available for decades?
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Exactly why the obsession with the AR15 makes no sense, you can do more damage in the same amount of time with your typical pump shotgun.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Stop with the BS, will ya please?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_style_rifle

So you acknowledge the fact that you just want the next best thing to a full "battlefield weapon". WTF for? You target shoot to practice hitting a target as a pretext to KILL. Hunting rifles do a good job, shotguns do, semi-auto handguns and rifles do. You want battlefield authenticity? Join the army. Let's at least try to keep these things off the open market, as they seem to get into the hands of nutjobs as of late.
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Key: "as of late". What's changed? We didn't used to have these problems, even though there were few restrictions on guns, and few gun free zones.
 
Taichiliberal said:
So with the supposition of what could have done a better job at Sandy Hook aside ( I deal with the historical fact, not what might have been) essentially, the AR-15 (style) weapons are indeed assault weapons by your descriptions...they are NOT hunting rifles, and as you point out a hand gun does the job of self defense (usually for the home) quite adequately. Your response is apropos to this:

https://www.csgv.org/issues-archive/assault-weapons-faq/

Thanks for the honest response.
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Actually, a semi-auto handgun or a pump-action shotgun could have done just as much or more damage at Sandy Hook.
 
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"Actually, a semi-auto handgun or a pump-action shotgun could have done just as much or more damage at Sandy Hook." r #76
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Probably not when not in the hands of an expert. And the Sandy Hook shooter was not an expert.

Some handgun auto-loaders can be re-loaded (exchanging spent magazine for full) at adequate combat speed.

BUT !!

It's practice and experience that promote proficiency.

What the AR does is render such massacres Child’s Play, vocabulary irony painfully noted.

An able martial artist might have scored a similar corpse count with a samurai sword.

A short length of pipe, a rock in a sock, or even a broken bottle can be a deadly weapon.

What the AR-15 does is make such massacres of the innocent easy, with very little training, expertise, or skill.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Someone please explain to me what is so special about the #AR15 (style) assault rifle(s) that can't be done with the myriad of shotguns, hunting rifles, revolvers and semi-automatic handguns that have been available for decades?
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you are right.....so why do the fucking idiots on the left wasting their time trying to ban them......
 
sear said:
b) It's possible to kill 3 suspects with a rusty screwdriver.
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true......it would also be possible for you to post here using only a cell phone and your tongue......however it is not legal to ban weapons and it not illegal to ban keyboards......
 
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