An honest question on assault rifles.

Are you really this fucking stupid? Comparing the Civil Rights movement to this urge to own a weapon? Guess what stupid? if there were no seats in the back of the bus (standing room only) but seats in the front during the Jim Crow/segregation days, Rosa couldn't ride and would have to wait for the next bus? Why, her money was just as good as a white persons. Get the picture, stupid?

You have a right to a weapon, but NOT military grade ones....not full automatics, and for a brief time not semi-auto assault weapons. America got along fine with the AWB....crime didn't go through the roof. Deal with it.

Don't you EVER think to get away with that stupidity again.

yah, I mean dude, its so lame to compare constitutional rights with constitutional rights......doncha know?.....
 
So it's a better, more effective killing machine...given it's ammo capacity and higher impact ammo used?

No. I would argue that I would be much effective in a confined area with my .45

Magazine holds thirteen rounds
Much more lethal round
I can carry 15 magazines
I can be more mobile
I am very accurate with my .45 ACP

you aren’t being an honest broker which suspected

So my question to you is what is it about the AR15 that makes you want to get rid of it so badly? Why don’t you want to ban others?
 
Probably not when not in the hands of an expert. And the Sandy Hook shooter was not an expert.
But he had a fair amount of ecperience with firearms.

Some handgun auto-loaders can be re-loaded (exchanging spent magazine for full) at adequate combat speed.

BUT !!

It's practice and experience that promote proficiency.

What the AR does is render such massacres Child’s Play, vocabulary irony painfully noted.
which is also what gun free zones do.

An able martial artist might have scored a similar corpse count with a samurai sword.

A short length of pipe, a rock in a sock, or even a broken bottle can be a deadly weapon.

What the AR-15 does is make such massacres of the innocent easy, with very little training, expertise, or skill.
It's also easy using gasoline and a match, or explosives.
 
"...it would also be possible for you to post here using only a cell phone and your tongue..." PP #80
You flatter me sir!
"...however it is not legal to ban weapons" PP #80
- piffle -

"No right is absolute. Conversely, no government authority is absolute." lawyer, law Professor and former ACLU head Nadine Strossen

Yes we have 2nd Amendment rights.
No, our 2nd Amendment rights do not include anti-aircraft artillery, machine guns etc.
And weapons are ROUTINELY banned:
- in public schools
- courts of law
- airports
- aboard commercial airliners
- U.S. post offices
- etc.
"...however it is not legal to ban weapons" PP #80
Where do you get such ridiculous notions?
Have you considered using your head for something beyond keeping rain out of your neck?
"and it not illegal to ban keyboards......" PP #80
I invite you to post your reason why our 1st Amendment right should not protect this fundamental instrument of free speech.
Banning the computer keyboard in the 3rd millennium would be as unlikely as banning the feather (quill pen) in the 18th century.
"No. I would argue that I would be much effective in a confined area with my .45" IA #82
Quite likely.
And while I deduce you understand this, some others in this thread may not.
The close-quarters advantages of the handgun diminish fairly rapidly as distance to target increases.
At 200 meters and more, the long gun tends to have the advantage. Snipers don't commonly choose a snubnosed .38 as their tool of the trade.

BUT !!

If the issue is self-defense, many self-defense scenarios involve attackers at very close range, sometimes within arm's reach.
If the perceived threat is 30 meters or more away, in what way is it a threat?
 
PS
"But he had a fair amount of ecperience with firearms." r #83
How old was he? 20? So he didn't have decades of experience.
And I doubt he was a U.S. military combat veteran.

Proficiency isn't a binary. It's a spectrum.
The difference is, even if he was the best shooter ever born, he used the weapon he used.
And whether he could have tallied as many corpses with a Winchester pump, many could not. That's the distinction. The AR-15 make such massacres easy, even for those with limited training or experience.
"which is also what gun free zones do." r #83
They can, when they're the size of a school building.

BUT !!

When such "gun free zones" are the size of Canada, or Australia, it seems to be a different story.
"It's also easy using gasoline and a match, or explosives." r #83
So one might imagine.
But smuggling gasoline into a school in a hip-flask might only bring enough to cause a small disturbance, potentially undetected at the time (discovered only later by the scorch marks).
Smuggling in enough gasoline to kill a room full of agile children before they could escape would I suspect, be a nearly impossible logistical obstacle (thank goodness).

The truck-bomb is quite an able weapon. President Reagan proved that.

But these school shooters seem to have skipped a cog. They seem to be as enmeshed in their choice of weapon, as their lethal objective.

McVeigh was an exception. McVeigh's motive seems to be vengeance for the Branch Davidian genocide. What was Dylan Kleebold's motive?
 
There you have it, folks. A full on admission of what I have been saying for weeks.
These assault rifles are for dudes who want to Play Rambo, need a penis extender, want to play solider, or just generally want to have the toys to make them seem like a bad ass.

I had to put up with howls of protest from the reich wing, but I have to commend you for the honest admission of the real and actual reason a lot of dudes want an assault rifle.

I did it for 6 years as an active duty marine, or was that also a penis extension at that time? was I playing marine at that time? Do you think that because my time as an active duty marine is in the past, that I was officially deprogrammed by the government to become a servile citizen again and thus am incapable of using a weapon as anything other than a penis extension?
 
My, but you dance well in your own bullshit. Where did I say that I didn't believe in the 2nd Amendment? And since by LAW you can't have weapons that select to fully automatic, your comparison to the the AR15 is interesting, given that you gunners swear up and down that it's NOT a military style weapon. But as usual, historical facts make a fool of you https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...stion-on-assault-rifles&p=2311903#post2311903

you really don't like to read things correctly, do you? I did not say you don't believe in the 2nd Amendment, I said you don't believe that it is about individual rights as citizen militias. and by LAW, one actually CAN OWN a fully automatic. it just has to be one manufactured before May 1st, 1986. The AR15 is modeled after the M16, minus the select fire switch.

My, you danced poorly in your own bullshit. maybe you should try it again.
 
I have handled firearms, but I am no weapons expert.
But this forum's self-appointed weapons experts really do not seem like they really know what they are talking about. An AR15 is a fair to middling self defense weapon. It is actually useless as a carry and conceal, and when you are in in your house a shotgun is the best weapon known to mankind for overwhelming close quarters firepower. And I know this shit without even being a true professional expert on firearms.

p.s., I commend you for starting this thread, because I have seen some overt and tacit admissions here of the actual reasons a lot of gun humpers actually want to have assault rifles -- nothing of which have to do with any of the traditional reasons for having a firearm. And I really do not think these Rambo wannabes are actually part of a "well regulated militia" tasked with defending the country. Really, their pea shooters would be inconsequential and utterly ineffective against an invading army with modern equipment. Wolverines!!

but i'll just bet that your sorry statist ass LOVES the idea of law enforcement having these AR15 'patrol' rifles instead of those awful AR15 'assault' rifles, don't ya pooh?
 
Umm, yes, it is. Educate yourself, moron. Is it theoretically possible for an American civilian private citizen to own a fully functional nuke?

Theoretically possible? :lolup: :rofl2:

There it is folks. Another example that there really IS such as thing as a stupid question!
 
And to Cypress, who was stupid enough to "Thank" your above quoted dip-shit like post...

...you're just as stupid as domerdunce, aren't you.<<< (notice that is a period and not a question mark as that wasn't a question.)

^There it is folks. Another example of a RW fucktard demonstrating his massive ignorance of Constitutional rights.

Run along, Dumbo, you’re out of your league.
 
Is it a right to keep ANY firearm? I'll spare you your inevitable stupid shit response.

No.

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I have handled firearms, but I am no weapons expert.
But this forum's self-appointed weapons experts really do not seem like they really know what they are talking about. An AR15 is a fair to middling self defense weapon. It is actually useless as a carry and conceal, and when you are in in your house a shotgun is the best weapon known to mankind for overwhelming close quarters firepower. And I know this shit without even being a true professional expert on firearms.

p.s., I commend you for starting this thread, because I have seen some overt and tacit admissions here of the actual reasons a lot of gun humpers actually want to have assault rifles -- nothing of which have to do with any of the traditional reasons for having a firearm. And I really do not think these Rambo wannabes are actually part of a "well regulated militia" tasked with defending the country. Really, their pea shooters would be inconsequential and utterly ineffective against an invading army with modern equipment. Wolverines!!

Another idiot who thinks like that other idiot Joe O'Biden. :rofl2:

 
Probably not when not in the hands of an expert. And the Sandy Hook shooter was not an expert.

Some handgun auto-loaders can be re-loaded (exchanging spent magazine for full) at adequate combat speed.

BUT !!

It's practice and experience that promote proficiency.

What the AR does is render such massacres Child’s Play, vocabulary irony painfully noted.

An able martial artist might have scored a similar corpse count with a samurai sword.

A short length of pipe, a rock in a sock, or even a broken bottle can be a deadly weapon.

What the AR-15 does is make such massacres of the innocent easy, with very little training, expertise, or skill.

giphy.gif
 
I have handled firearms, but I am no weapons expert.
But this forum's self-appointed weapons experts really do not seem like they really know what they are talking about. An AR15 is a fair to middling self defense weapon. It is actually useless as a carry and conceal, and when you are in in your house a shotgun is the best weapon known to mankind for overwhelming close quarters firepower. And I know this shit without even being a true professional expert on firearms.

p.s., I commend you for starting this thread, because I have seen some overt and tacit admissions here of the actual reasons a lot of gun humpers actually want to have assault rifles -- nothing of which have to do with any of the traditional reasons for having a firearm. And I really do not think these Rambo wannabes are actually part of a "well regulated militia" tasked with defending the country. Really, their pea shooters would be inconsequential and utterly ineffective against an invading army with modern equipment. Wolverines!!

Lol, long guns are one of the worst weapons for close quarters defense.
 
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