Big Brother Gives Infraction For Believing Homosexuality Is Wrong

ZappasGuitar said:
IF homosexuality is a sin then it's up to GOD to mete out punishment.

The problem is too many Christians aren't willing to leave the "punishment" to God.
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So in your book of politcal correctness are they suppose to stay silent?

Thats gay. And your a idiot
 
Onceler said:
That's a bit nitpicky. I have no problem w/ discouraging the airing of bigoted views in a classroom environment.
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Of course you have no problem with it because liberals are always about shutting up those with whom they disagree, all in the name of "freedom". You have a piss poor definition of freedom, as well as a typically liberally slanted definition of bigotry.

BTW: exactly where IS an "appropriate" place to express opposing views to an issue that is being quite literally thrust in the young man's face? If the schools discourage students to express opposing views of an issue that has been presented to them (considering the FULL story, it's not like the student just made the comment out of the blue) then when should they? Or are you expecting student to simply STFU? Or, more likely, are they allowed to express opposing views to things you totalitarian fucks disagree with, but should STFU if they disagree with things you agree with?
 
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Good Luck said:
Of course you have no problem with it because liberals are always about shutting up those with whom they disagree, all in the name of "freedom". You have a piss poor definition of freedom, as well as a typically liberally slanted definition of bigotry.
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How would you feel about someone wearing a "God hates fags" t-shirt in class? Would you allow that?
 
There is a marked difference between expressing the belief that homosexuality is wrong or sinful, and using deliberately antagonistic, derogatory terms to describe people who practice homosexual acts. Unless you have information which states the student in question was using derogatory terms to express their opinion, all you have is the usual liberal "well, if there is this extreme example, then we are justified in hosing it all down." It goes right along with the liberal mantra that we must repress all so that no one can do wrong. We see it daily with how liberals treat speech, guns, and other freedoms.

Besides, God does NOT hate homosexuals. God loves all. What God cannot abide is sin, and the act of homosexuality is what is defined in the Bible as sinful.
 
Good Luck said:
There is a marked difference between expressing the belief that homosexuality is wrong or sinful, and using deliberately antagonistic, derogatory terms to describe people who practice homosexual acts. Unless you have information which states the student in question was using derogatory terms to express their opinion, all you have is the usual liberal "well, if there is this extreme example, then we are justified in hosing it all down." It goes right along with the liberal mantra that we must repress all so that no one can do wrong. We see it daily with how liberals treat speech, guns, and other freedoms.

Besides, God does NOT hate homosexuals. God loves all. What God cannot abide is sin, and the act of homosexuality is what is defined in the Bible as sinful.
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Some people believe God hates homosexuals. You have a benevolent view of God, but some don't.

It's not an opposing opinion to say homosexuality is wrong. From a bullied students point of view, I don't there is much difference in terms of fostering an atmosphere of intolerance. If you think that someone shouldn't be allowed to wear a "God hates fags" shirt to class, you DO see a point at which the rights of those discriminated against takes precedence over unlimited "free speech."

Ergo, you're either a hypocrite, or someone who thinks that the arbitrary line that should be drawn is something they & no one else can determine.
 
Good Luck said:
There is a marked difference between expressing the belief that homosexuality is wrong or sinful, and using deliberately antagonistic, derogatory terms to describe people who practice homosexual acts. Unless you have information which states the student in question was using derogatory terms to express their opinion, all you have is the usual liberal "well, if there is this extreme example, then we are justified in hosing it all down." It goes right along with the liberal mantra that we must repress all so that no one can do wrong. We see it daily with how liberals treat speech, guns, and other freedoms.

Besides, God does NOT hate homosexuals. God loves all. What God cannot abide is sin, and the act of homosexuality is what is defined in the Bible as sinful.
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BS.
http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=122

What is described is temple prostitution.
 
Return of Dune said:
Seems you are quite wrong, as usual, from wiki;

Estimating the number of homosexuals in a given population can be problematic due to problems of measurement, definition, and heterogeneous geographic distribution. Estimates in large populations range from 1% to 15%, with a mean of 4%-5%. (See Demographics of sexual orientation.) Despite this, evidence from several studies has shown that there are higher than average numbers of homosexual men (active and non-active) within the Catholic priesthood and higher orders.
A number of anonymous studies have suggested a prevalence of homosexual leanings in the Roman Catholic priesthood. Studies by Wolf and Sipe from the early 1990s suggest that the percentage of priests in the Catholic Church who admitted to being gay or were in homosexual relationships was well above the national average for the United States of America.[SUP][2][/SUP] Dr Elizabeth Stuart, a former convener of the Catholic Caucus of the Lesbian and Gay Christian movement claimed
"It has been estimated that at least 33 per cent of all priests in the RC Church in the United States are homosexual."[SUP][3][/SUP]Anecdotal press reports from anonymous sources also suggest that the incidence of homosexuality in the Roman Catholic priesthood is much higher than in the general population.[SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP] It is theorized part of the overrepresentation might be caused by heterosexual priests leaving in order to marry. But it may also have much to do with the Church offering a perceived 'sanctuary' for many men living in societies where homosexuality is criminalised or shunned - especially reducing the pressure by families to marry and have children.
One report suggested that since the mid-1980s Roman Catholic priests in the United States were dying from AIDS-related illnesses at a rate four times higher than that of the general population; with most of the cases contracted through same-sex relations, and the cause often concealed on their death certificates.[SUP][6][/SUP] Bishop Thomas Gumbleton of the Archdiocese of Detroit suggested that: "Gay priests and heterosexual priests didn't know how to handle their sexuality, their sexual drive. And so they would handle it in ways that were not healthy." Furthermore the report suggested that some priests and behavioral experts believe the church had "scared priests into silence by treating homosexual acts as an abomination and the breaking of celibacy vows as shameful".

From Catholic World News, http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=20565

News Feature
[h=2]The Gay Priest Problem June 03, 2002[/h]AIDS has quietly caused the deaths of hundreds of Roman Catholic priests in the United States although other causes may be listed on some of their death certificates, the Kansas City Star reported today. The newspaper said its examination of death certificates and interviews with experts indicates several hundred priests have died of AIDS-related illnesses since the mid-1980s. The death rate of priests from AIDS is at least four times that of the general population, the newspaper said. Kansas City Bishop Raymond Boland says the AIDS deaths show that priests are human.

Even About.com puts the figure at 25%;


http://atheism.about.com/od/catholicismandgays/a/gaypriests_2.htm
This is now a critical juncture for the Roman Catholic Church, particularly in America. Most studies put the number of gay Catholic priests at around 25 percent or higher - dismissing them would devastate an already imperiled American priesthood. The median age of American priests is nearly 60 and getting older. The number of people entering seminaries has dropped by more than 80 percent since 1966, even as the Catholic population in America has increased dramatically.
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There's nothing wrong with guessing wrong Dune.

Assuming that the stats are right at 5 times the population average, that puts the number at 5-10%. Since celibacy is also a requirement, that would cut the number down to less than half of that, unless you're saying that gays can't control themselves.

So, what's your point?
 
Return of Dune said:
Really now, you don't think a professional where the norm is to not marry would atract even a slightly higher percentage?
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Since you point out "wrong as usual", let's analyze your statement briefly.

1. Not "you don't think", but "don't you think".
2. You mean "profession", not "professional".
3. It's not the norm not to marry; it is a requirement.
4. You mean "attract", not "atract".
 
DamnYankee said:
Since you point out "wrong as usual", let's analyze your statement briefly.

1. Not "you don't think", but "don't you think".
2. You mean "profession", not "professional".
3. It's not the norm not to marry; it is a requirement.
4. You mean "attract", not "atract".
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Good work sir. You certainly proved....nothing at all.
 
DamnYankee said:
There's nothing wrong with guessing wrong Dune.

Assuming that the stats are right at 5 times the population average, that puts the number at 5-10%. Since celibacy is also a requirement, that would cut the number down to less than half of that, unless you're saying that gays can't control themselves.

So, what's your point?
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My point is that you have no idea what you are talking about. Thanks.
 
Onceler said:
It's not an opposing opinion to say homosexuality is wrong.
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According to YOU. So I can't draw the line, but YOU can? An you call ME the hypocrite? LOL You can't see the difference between stating that homosexuality is wrong, and calling homosexuals derogatory terms, that just shows a mind willing to force their views on others, all in the name of your ridiculous brand of freedom.

You have nothing less than a totalitarian bullshit fucked up anti-liberty political philosophy. There was a time when progressivism was a needed political philosophy. Today you have turned into what you once called your worst enemy: those who would use law to force your particular views on everyone else. Tell us, how is that different than what you accuse evangelical Christians of trying to do?

Homosexuality is wrong according to Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and several other religions which, the belief of which, in total, covers approximately 95% of the world's population. Yet YOU are the one who is correct, and have the right to outright STAMP OUT any belief that opposes yours, and FORCE everyone else to either believe as you believe, or STFU. You are WORSE that any of the hardcore evangelicals you denigrate on a constant basis. You are a totalitarian fuck, as are the total of your miserable political masters. That is all there is to it. You can call hypocrisy all you want while hiding behind your tyrannical shit. But you want to hang such a tag, you need to look in the fucking mirror first.
 
bravo said:
Oh...I don't know....seems like only a few days ago YOU were the fuckin' spelling Nazi acting all high and mighty over someone else's minor mistakes...hypocrite
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My thread about USDAFREEDOM911 was in response to his critisism of another's poor grammer.

Try to follow along Bravo.
 
Good Luck said:
According to YOU. So I can't draw the line, but YOU can? An you call ME the hypocrite? LOL You can't see the difference between stating that homosexuality is wrong, and calling homosexuals derogatory terms, that just shows a mind willing to force their views on others, all in the name of your ridiculous brand of freedom.

You have nothing less than a totalitarian bullshit fucked up anti-liberty political philosophy. There was a time when progressivism was a needed political philosophy. Today you have turned into what you once called your worst enemy: those who would use law to force your particular views on everyone else. Tell us, how is that different than what you accuse evangelical Christians of trying to do?

Homosexuality is wrong according to Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and several other religions which, the belief of which, in total, covers approximately 95% of the world's population. Yet YOU are the one who is correct, and have the right to outright STAMP OUT any belief that opposes yours, and FORCE everyone else to either believe as you believe, or STFU. You are WORSE that any of the hardcore evangelicals you denigrate on a constant basis. You are a totalitarian fuck, as are the total of your miserable political masters. That is all there is to it. You can call hypocrisy all you want while hiding behind your tyrannical shit. But you want to hang such a tag, you need to look in the fucking mirror first.
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People hide their bigoted views behind religion all of the time. Did Christ ever say that homosexuality is wrong?

Try not to get so emotional. Homosexuality isn't wrong, any more than being black is wrong, or being Jewish, or having a stutter. I don't respect beliefs that enable discrimination & harassment.

Sorry 'bout that.
 
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