Bill Maher Left An Obamacare Hater Speechless With One Question
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FTFY
Althea
Althea told me...........
Are you one of the few remaining morons?
christiefan915
Catalyst
Does this bother you when regular insurance companies do it or is it just Obamacare? And if it does bother you, what have you done about it?
christiefan915
Catalyst
Do you use this argument about every umpteen-page budget that's passed? And please don't deflect the question by bringing up Obama's budget problems.
christiefan915
Catalyst
If you had a single shred of honesty you'd admit the repubs don't give a shit about reforming health care in this country, and never did. So of course they didn't vote for it.
Yet there's Romneycare...
baxter for once says something useful.
You don't have an answer.
It's going to fail because the penalty is not high enough to make the "mandate" work. Many young and healthy people who would have provided subsidies for the old will just pay the penalty. Without them the costs are going to be higher than expected. Then the left will claim the insurers are being greedy.
And the fake libertarian atheist, who demands special rights for Catholics/Christians, never says anything useful. I would say you should kill yourself but after your debate performance I am not sure you should be allowed to.
They already do, and they blame insurers for the rash of cancellations because existing policies don't include Obamacare-required coverages.
Althea
Althea told me...........
Yea...there was nothing wrong with the way healthcare was delivered in this country. There was no need for any change.
Still some morons who think the law is 2000 pages, I see.
But all politics aside, the investigation contains some interesting figures and information culled from thousands of pages of documents provided by the insurers. The memo points out, for instance, that since 2007, the number of denials on the basis of pre-existing conditions has risen each year, outpacing the increase in applications for insurance coverage:
Still some morons who think the law is 2000 pages, I see.
But all politics aside, the investigation contains some interesting figures and information culled from thousands of pages of documents provided by the insurers. The memo points out, for instance, that since 2007, the number of denials on the basis of pre-existing conditions has risen each year, outpacing the increase in applications for insurance coverage:
A year-by-year analysis shows a significant increase in the number of coverage denials each year. The insurance companies denied coverage to 172,400 people in 2007 and 221,400 people in 2008. By 2009, the number of individuals denied coverage rose to 257,100.Between 2007 and 2009, the number of people denied coverage for pre-existing conditions increased 49%. During the same period, applications for insurance coverage at the four companies increased by only 16%.
http://www.propublica.org/blog/item...e-to-1-in-7-people-citing-pre-existing-condit
http://www.propublica.org/blog/item...e-to-1-in-7-people-citing-pre-existing-condit
Obamacare is so wonderful that Obama had to lie about it for years...
He didn’t say it just once.
No, the president said it at least twenty-three separate times over a four-year period: “If you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you.”
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Hundreds of thousands of people recently received notices from their insurers informing them that they would not be able to keep their plans under Obamacare. Millions more will discover the same thing over the next few weeks.
They’ll lose the reliable, affordable plans they have now.
And they’ll instead have the option to purchase more expensive, more comprehensive plans that they may not need or want.
Some will no doubt find the coverage available under Obamacare unaffordable. So they’ll go without — and pay the individual mandate penalty of $95 or 1 percent of income in 2014.
Thanks to Obamacare, more than two millions Americans have received letters denying renewal of their existing policies.
That’s triple the number of people who have attempted to buy new plans under the law.
In California, 279,000 people have been told they’re being stripped of their coverage; in Michigan, 140,000; in Florida, 300,000; and in New Jersey, 800,000.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Of the 19 million people with individual-market health insurance, approximately 16 million could lose their current plans.
The rash of changes to Americans’ existing insurance coverage will soon extend to the employer marketplace.
That shouldn’t be a surprise.
After all, the Department of Health and Human Services predicted back in 2010 that by the end of this year, 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large health plans would lose the “grandfather status” that exempted them from the law’s many expensive mandates.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2013/11/11/president-obama-actually-meant-if-you-like-your-insurance-plan-too-bad/
He didn’t say it just once.
No, the president said it at least twenty-three separate times over a four-year period: “If you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you.”
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Hundreds of thousands of people recently received notices from their insurers informing them that they would not be able to keep their plans under Obamacare. Millions more will discover the same thing over the next few weeks.
They’ll lose the reliable, affordable plans they have now.
And they’ll instead have the option to purchase more expensive, more comprehensive plans that they may not need or want.
Some will no doubt find the coverage available under Obamacare unaffordable. So they’ll go without — and pay the individual mandate penalty of $95 or 1 percent of income in 2014.
Thanks to Obamacare, more than two millions Americans have received letters denying renewal of their existing policies.
That’s triple the number of people who have attempted to buy new plans under the law.
In California, 279,000 people have been told they’re being stripped of their coverage; in Michigan, 140,000; in Florida, 300,000; and in New Jersey, 800,000.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Of the 19 million people with individual-market health insurance, approximately 16 million could lose their current plans.
The rash of changes to Americans’ existing insurance coverage will soon extend to the employer marketplace.
That shouldn’t be a surprise.
After all, the Department of Health and Human Services predicted back in 2010 that by the end of this year, 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large health plans would lose the “grandfather status” that exempted them from the law’s many expensive mandates.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2013/11/11/president-obama-actually-meant-if-you-like-your-insurance-plan-too-bad/
How many times are you going to lie about me saying that?
Taft2016
Verified User
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/10/23/affordable-care-act-pages-long/3174499/
Yeah Big Money, stop lying.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Yup...that's the political risk for both parties. Democrats own it. Even though most of the ideas are market based ideas which originated with previous Republican administration. The PP&ACA was passed through congress without a single Republican vote.
and that's the risk...if the ACA works and becomes popular...and it is already starting to do so, then Democrats will own that. If it flops, then they will still own it.
The GOP opposition is almost solely politically based on that they expect it to succeed and Dems will own it and not them.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
That's what was truly amazing about the ACA...the Dems gave the GOP just about every compromise they asked for...and then they still voted against. Does that tell you what the GOP's opposition to healh care reform is really about?