BREAKING: Trump says he’s going to overturn the 14th Amendment with an executive order.

Uncensored2008 said:
Trump said he would stop the insanity of Birthright Citizenship, not end the 14th as you lied.

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.”

Illegal aliens are by definition not subject to the jurisdiction of the country and are in fact illegally present.
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Sybil thinks he's a lawyer. :rofl2: :ROFLMAO: :rofl2:

Dear Dumbass; if illegals are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, then why do we have some in prison?
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Trump said he would stop the insanity of Birthright Citizenship, not end the 14th as you lied.

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.”

Illegal aliens are by definition not subject to the jurisdiction of the country and are in fact illegally present.
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Never said he's going end the 14th. We're talking about people being born here.
 
AProudLefty said:
Never said he's going end the 14th. We're talking about people being born here.
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The OP and the name of the thread both tell the lie that Trump will overturn the 14th.

And we are talking about anchor babies from people who illegally enter the country. Because the are born here illegally, they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the country and hence are not citizens.

No other country on earth allows such insanity.
 
RB 60 said:
If they're born to illegals, send them along with their parents when they are deported. You wouldn't want to break up families, would you?
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Yes, but the Stalinists think they have a "gotcha" with the 14th. They don't because they don't read the entire phrase.

Illegal aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, that is they do not abide by our laws, hence those offspring they produce are not entitled to birthright citizenship.
 
Trump has no respect nor understanding of the Constitution. He figures if he wants to do something, he will just do it and defy you to do anything about it. He is also a fount of hot air. He says things that fire up his followers. Trump is a stupid man and predictable.
 
Damocles said:
Says the folks that were never upset from the 13 times (small exaggeration, not a big one but definitely slightly exaggerated) pResident Braindead tried to do something the SCOTUS already specifically told him was against the constitution.
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there you are.
 
Damocles said:
Says the folks that were never upset from the 13 times (small exaggeration, not a big one but definitely slightly exaggerated) pResident Braindead tried to do something the SCOTUS already specifically told him was against the constitution.
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There is a lot of play in such orders, and Biden tried to do them in different ways that he thought might be considered Constitutional. That is different than deporting AMERICAN CITIZENS because you wont accept that Constitutionally they are CITIZENS.
 
Damocles said:
I think he's going to test the wording of the 14th. We do have a SCOTUS that will rule on it, of that I am certain. I don't see much difference between this and Braindead repeatedly trying to exercise the legislative authority through his executive orders. Well one difference, once they've ruled I think Trump will understand that repeating the experience is futile.
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It seems trumps position is much more clearly against the very clear meaning of the very direct language in the 14th Amendment.

It would be akin to a president declaring that The Baptist Church is the official religion of the United States.
 
Teflon Don said:
Only a complete moron would believe that at the time of its writing, the 14th had ANYTHING to do with immigration legal or illegal
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The language is VERY CLEAR.

Nobody would believe the 14th Amendment at the time of its writing contemplated AR-15's/
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Trump said he would stop the insanity of Birthright Citizenship, not end the 14th as you lied.

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.”

Illegal aliens are by definition not subject to the jurisdiction of the country and are in fact illegally present.
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Are you kidding? You do not believe that an undocumented immigrant is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?

How could we deport them if they are not subject to our jurisdiction? If they commit a crime, are you suggesting the United States has no jurisdiction over them? If they make money, do we not have jurisdiction to tax them?

Silly as can be.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
President's using executive orders is bullshit since the next president can change them. Congress needs to do their fucking job instead of constantly punting to the WH or SCOTUS.

In this case, I'm guessing it will end up with SCOTUS. Trump plans to deport US citizens. Notice that Melania and her family were part of chain migration. LOL

Trump: We Have To Get 14th Amendment Changed, Or Deport Mixed-Legal Status Families "Together"​

President-elect Donald Trump told NBC's Kristen Welker, in an interview filmed Friday and aired this morning on "Meet the Press," that he supports changing the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to eliminate birthright citizenship, but if they can't get that done then they will have to deport U.S. citizen children who have illegal immigrant parents together.

"Well, I don't want to be breaking up families, so the only way you don't break up the family is you keep them together and you have to send them all back," Trump said.
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I remember when they used to get upset at the black president for issuing executive orders.
 
Jarod said:
I spent a lot of time studying it and consider myself an expert. But when an idiot makes such a claim, I want to hear their version. I suspect he has no idea about the 14th.
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Okay, so you are an expert on the 14th Amendment. Cool. The sole purpose of the 14th Amendment was to ensure full citizenship rights for ex-slaves and their descendants. Is that your opinion?
 
Jarod said:
I remember when they used to get upset at the black president for issuing executive orders.
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Notice both the projection and their continued cries of "They did it first!" as an excuse.

If Trump, through his DOJ and FBI, does as promised, and seeks to prosecute and jail members of the Congressional investigation into 1/6, how long before Trump has to issue blanket pardons for his own staff in four years because, now that the precedent has been set, they are all facing prison?
 
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