Into the Night
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Go learn English, Pretender.
BREAKING: Trump says he’s going to overturn the 14th Amendment with an executive order.
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Into the Night
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There is no 'legal definition', Poorboy. Go learn English.
So you want to separate parents from their children. Gotit. DON'T TRY TO HIDE BEHIND THE CONSTITUTION YOU DESPISE!
Except that is completely false.
How many foreigners are currently in US jails? If there is more than zero then clearly they are subject to US jurisdiction.
I'll give you a hint, there are a lot more than ten thousand in US jails. If the USSC rules that they are not subject to US jurisdiction then the US would be jailing them illegally. Not only would they be immediately freed, they could sue the government for hundreds of millions if not billions for being illegally held in violation of US law and the US Constitution. Treaties allow for foreigners to sue the US government.
Why do you think the US used Guantanamo for holding Al Qaeda members? It was to prevent them from being subject to US jurisdiction if they were being held inside the US.
Everyone on US soil other than foreign diplomats are subject to US jurisdiction. No sane court will rule otherwise because the consequences would be catastrophic for the US.
Other countries also don't grant their citizens the right to keep and bear arms.
Only one country has the US Constitution. If you are unable to understand that then you are too stupid to have an intelligent conversation with.
Into the Night
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Go learn English, Poorboy. That is not the meaning of 'jurisdiction'.
If it said that then the families of foreign diplomats that give birth in the US would have their children become US citizens. By requiring the person be under US jurisdiction it exempts foreign diplomats since they are about the only class of persons not subject to US jurisdiction when in the US. Why do you think foreign embassies are considered foreign soil and US law enforcement is not allowed to get a warrant to enter those facilities?
Into the Night
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Rights don't come from a government or piece of paper, Poorboy. The right to self defense is inherent. Yes...that means the right to bear arms is as well. No government can stop it.
Into the Night
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They can, Poorboy. US law enforcement can enforce the law in an embassy just as well as anywhere else.
Go learn what 'jurisdiction' means. Go learn English.
I tire of Democrat word games.
Yakuda
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That's the problem though, leftist dipshits think rights do come from the govt. They are so screwed up it's not funny.
Because at the time there were some Indian Reservations where people were not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
But also subject to the Jurisdiction of the United States, its not one or the other. If they were not subject to our jurisdiction we would not be allowed to arrest them or even deport them.
It also exempts families of foreign diplomats.
SO you cant do it. Comprendo!
Yup, diplomats are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States!
Because they did not want certain Indians or diplomats to be considered Citizens.
There is a great book called "The history of the 14th Amendment."
I guess you should learn about international treaties.
Article 22
1. The premises of the mission shall be inviolable. The agents of the receiving State may not enter
them, except with the consent of the head of the mission.
2. The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises
of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the
mission or impairment of its dignity.
3. The premises of the mission, their furnishings and other property thereon and the means of
transport of the mission shall be immune from search, requisition, attachment or execution
Rights are guaranteed by the Constitution. It seems you don't understand what a guarantee is vs what a right is.
The right to self defense doesn't guarantee you can own a gun any more than the right to self defense guarantees you can own a nuclear warhead. Both are weapons you can use to defend yourself.
WRONG
Have you never heard of people hiding out in an Embassy? Julian Assange for example? Read up!