But Bush said not yet....

Superfreak said:
My guess is it is some deranged little kids trying to get attention. They likely did this in secret to see what the response would be. My guess is that seeing condemnation from both sides will cause them to remain quiet. To equate this to either side seems a bit silly.
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That is the other possibility, I agree.
 
Wrong...

uscitizen said:
Ahh so it was those liberal spare the rod types that caused it then super ?
Yeah expect me to raise their brats for them....
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again..you are just not getting it...True conservative 'Raise' their own...the brats come from the 'Liberal' section...ie: Hillary needs a 'Village' to raise hers...and how many kids do you have USC and how are they doing??? Mine are doing just fine..thank you very much!
 
Don't dodge the...

Darla said:
Made statements like what? What are you talking about?

My father loved me and used to beam with pride over me, but thanks for implying that he's ashamed of me. That was really nice.
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question..I am sure your 'Father ' doted over you as any 'Dad'... that is normal...what war did he serve in and why did you drag him into this dialog...if you want results be prepared to put all facts forward...this is not CNN et al 'Sound Bites' rule...lol
 
Battleborne said:
question..I am sure your 'Father ' doted over you as any 'Dad'... that is normal...what war did he serve in and why did you drag him into this dialog...if you want results be prepared to put all facts forward...this is not CNN et al 'Sound Bites' rule...lol
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Are you drunk again?

Does it anger you that I have a father who was in the military?
 
Darla said:
Say what you will Damo, I know nobody in the peace movement who would ever even think of doing something like this.

And, there is no benefit to us to do something like this.

Who benefits from an act like this?

The faux outrage queenies that's who. Who's hurt by it? The Peace movement. So, I say, prove it.
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bingo...the right has much to gain from this...the left has nothing to gain.
 
NO!

Darla said:
Are you drunk again?

Does it anger you that I have a father who was in the military?
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But I think maybe you are...just answer the question!...My kids know my experience and form their own opinions...unlike you and your 'Pink' mantra..you want so much to be accepted that you have sold out your Dads...sacrafice...if what you are saying is true...I am beginning to think ya are a fraud!
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Darla said:
Occam's razor would have provided the WRONG explanation for Countelpro activities now wouldn't it have? But you wouldn't have believed it then either Damo, and years later when it came out, you wouldn't have been around to admit it.

I know no one who would desecrate a grave. this is absurd. It's a right wing fantasy of how an anti-war protester would behave.

My own father is buried at Calverton National cemetary Damo, and if anyone put a swatski on his grave, I would beat the living shit out of them, so they better not let me catch them doing it.

You like to make anti-war protesters into cartoons. And this fits right in with that cartoon.

I notice that this time, you dont' want to "wait for proof" before you make a judgement. Kind of telling.
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I judge them regardless of reason to be parasites in whale poop. I did say that it could be what you say, but less than likely.

As I said, neither side would want to claim these turds they smell too bad. But you can read whatever you want into what I post, you do anyway.

What I suspect is different than what may have happened. I notice you aren't waiting to judge either....

And just because you "don't know of anybody" doesn't mean that they aren't there and just won't tell you about their nighttime escapades on Memorial night...

Seriously, just because you think people are scum doesn't mean that they cannot be among you.
 
maineman said:
bingo...the right has much to gain from this...the left has nothing to gain.
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Other than their own satisfaction. The left had little to "gain" from spitting at Vets from 'Nam, yet they did it.

The right has little to gain from 'tards bombing abortion clinics, yet there are 'tards that will do that too.
 
Battleborne said:
again..you are just not getting it...True conservative 'Raise' their own...the brats come from the 'Liberal' section...ie: Hillary needs a 'Village' to raise hers...and how many kids do you have USC and how are they doing??? Mine are doing just fine..thank you very much!
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HUH ? You hittin the sauce early or someting BB ?

My post was:

Originally Posted by uscitizen
Ahh so it was those liberal spare the rod types that caused it then super ?
Yeah expect me to raise their brats for them....

think I will go eat a few Lortabs, might make more sense then...
 
Battleborne said:
But I think maybe you are...just answer the question!...My kids know my experience and form their own opinions...unlike you and your 'Pink' mantra..you want so much to be accepted that you have sold out your Dads...sacrafice...if what you are saying is true...I am beginning to think ya are a fraud!
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My father is buried at Calverton National Cemetary. That's all I am going to say about him, because anything else is none of your fucking business asshole.

I mentioned it because I wanted to point out to Damo that anti-war protesters are not cartoons. I don't care whether you believe me or not.

As to what my father would think of what I do, I can tell you this much...he'd bash your fucking head in in two seconds if you ever had said any of this above to his face.

And he was a 6'3 Irish man who grew up on the streets of Brooklyn. when I say he would have bashed your fucking head in, I mean, he would have bashed your fucking head in.

Now screw off.
 
Superfreak said:
My guess is it is some deranged little kids trying to get attention. They likely did this in secret to see what the response would be. My guess is that seeing condemnation from both sides will cause them to remain quiet. To equate this to either side seems a bit silly.
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I could see that too. Protestors would likely be better prepared than "hand-drawn"...
 
Damocles said:
Other than their own satisfaction. The left had little to "gain" from spitting at Vets from 'Nam, yet they did it.

The right has little to gain from 'tards bombing abortion clinics, yet there are 'tards that will do that too.
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I know Vietnam Vets who say that spitting stuff was so rare, that it barely happened.
 
Damocles said:
I judge them regardless of reason to be parasites in whale poop. I did say that it could be what you say, but less than likely.

As I said, neither side would want to claim these turds they smell too bad. But you can read whatever you want into what I post, you do anyway.

What I suspect is different than what may have happened. I notice you aren't waiting to judge either....

And just because you "don't know of anybody" doesn't mean that they aren't there and just won't tell you about their nighttime escapades on Memorial night...

Seriously, just because you think people are scum doesn't mean that they cannot be among you.
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Damo, I never wait though. You always make a big show of waiting. So who is acting out of character here?

Even if someone was scummy enough to do it, the point is, they don't benefit from it. The first question to ask is, who benefits?
 
Darla said:
Damo, I never wait though. You always make a big show of waiting. So who is acting out of character here?

Even if someone was scummy enough to do it, the point is, they don't benefit from it. The first question to ask is, who benefits?
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Yet I had made no "positive" assurance and used words like "most likely", you only read what you want again. I have made no claim to absolute knowledge, just a judgement of what I think is most likely.

And often nobody benefits from a negative action taken, we look to why somebody might take such an action and what message was sent through the action.

I also notice that you believe Rs to be "cartoons" with your positive assurance that the protestors aren't.

The charicature of somebody sneaking through the night doing some inane thing laughing as they say, "It'll be blamed on the lefties..." is just such a "cartoon".

I am closer to saying that the most likely is the kids scenario brought forward by SF.
 
Darla said:
I know Vietnam Vets who say that spitting stuff was so rare, that it barely happened.
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Indeed, I've never met one who actually saw it happen. It's always "someone they knew" or the proverbial friend-of-a-friend.

I'm not saying that it didn't happen, I'm just saying there's precious little evidence to support the idea it happened with any regularity. Most of the Vietnam War era protesters that I knew then and continue to know now had nothing against those who served on the ground. Our quarrel was, as always, with the politicians and, to a lesser extent, the generals.
 
All I know is that if I were a neoconservative opportunist who saw public support for my little war waning, pulling off a stunt like this might be just the thing to possibly turn the public away from the anti-war movement.

It certainly cannot turn the public TOWARD the anti-war movement...it certainly cannot garner support for their cause. It is clearly a thought out and well planned event - not anything at all like the inappropriate - but nonetheless spontaneous - spitting on troops that happened during Vietnam - Once to me, in fact, in OHare airport, in December 1969 - and I certainly don't think those young kids went to the airport with the express intention of spitting on guys in uniform...I think that the situation escalated and folks reacted. this event is nothing like that.
 
OrnotBitwise said:
Indeed, I've never met one who actually saw it happen. It's always "someone they knew" or the proverbial friend-of-a-friend.

I'm not saying that it didn't happen, I'm just saying there's precious little evidence to support the idea it happened with any regularity. Most of the Vietnam War era protesters that I knew then and continue to know now had nothing against those who served on the ground. Our quarrel was, as always, with the politicians and, to a lesser extent, the generals.
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Fine... Better example. The left has little to gain from booby-trapping trees and killing/maiming loggers. Yet we know that it happens sometimes.

Just as the right has little to benefit from blowing up people at abortion clinics, yet we know it happens sometimes.

Sick freakos exist on both sides, that neither side wants to claim them because they are so disgusting doesn't change that they are there.
 
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