Can a President send anyone away to be tortured if he simply claims they are enemies of the State?

[Lionfish]

Avoiding the question, I understand.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Avoiding the question, I understand.

He does that a lot these days. It's one reason why I suspect Legion is suffering from a cognitive decline. Not unusual among MAGAts on JPP, but he's only in his late 20s/early 30s, not a geezer like most MAGAts. It's odd to me and a little bit sad. I expect he'll be gone in less than 5 years.

 

[LurchAddams]

we watched the left nod their heads in total agreement with Obama when he said that he had the power to assassinate Americans overseas because 'due process' was him simply reviewing the case. own your own shit before accusing others of idiocy.

<shrug> When you have no clue or no answer to trump's criminality and harm he's doing - you lie. When trumptards don't like the facts, they just create their own.

 

[LurchAddams]

That is your ENTIRE position.



And afforded the protection of the law - which stipulates that they be deported.

But that is NOT what you claim - you claim the the Executive Branch, which is empowered by Article II of the United States Constitution to enforce laws duly created by Congress , is NOT allowed to enforce our laws and must beg permission from thousands of low level judges to take any action. You demand that illegal aliens have the same rights and immunities as citizens. Again noting that not you nor any other Stalinist can list even a single privilege or immunity that a citizen has that a non-citizen does not.

Effectively you deny that American Citizenship exists - extended to its logical conclusion, you deny that America exists as a sovereign nation.

So, if you're going to hide behind The Constitution to justify trump's Nazi tactics, how can you ignore people's right to an attorney, and the right to a trial? It's okay with you when trump disappears people to a Salvadorian black site with no Constitutional justification? So fucking hypocritical.

 

[LurchAddams]

Arrest and deport all illegal immigrants.

It is the law.

Yeah, trumptard. Just make sure if you have dark skin or a tattoo you have your birth certificate on you when masked trumptard thugs surround you on the street!

 

[LurchAddams]

After due process, sure!

Trumtards hatred of people with foreign accents or dark skin is much greater than their respect for basic rights granted by The Constitution they claim to love.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Some of the law, not all of it, as prescribed by the Constitution.

If you object to laws created by congress, then the legislative process is the remedy. The insurrection by partisan, activist, seditionist judges is a direct assault on our Constitutional Republic.

You have made clear your contempt for this nation and our laws. If you are an American citizen, you have a right to opposition the nation. But you will be resisted and exposed as what you are.

 

[Uncensored2008]

<shrug> When you have no clue or no answer to trump's criminality and harm he's doing - you lie. When trumptards don't like the facts, they just create their own.

Comrade, have you come up with any privileges and immunities enjoyed by American Citizens that you don't demand accrue to illegal aliens?

If not, then we can say that you don't recognize that America is a sovereign nation with citizens, or borders. You are simply a threat to democracy.

 

[Teflon Don]

They are human beings who are given the right to offer a defense in a hearing or court, according to our laws. Trump ignored that and took them to a foreign country to be abused, beaten raped and tortured. I wonder how long ago he set that up. He had to make the deal with El Salvador, offering them money and perhaps other things. It was organized and ready to go.
It was another shameful Trumpian act against people with no power.

Great we will put you on the side of illegal alien criminals. Good for you. You score virtue signaling points today.

 

[Teflon Don]

You are insane.

So you would side with your daughter over the illegal alien gang members? Or would you side with the latter? Simple question Jarod.

 

[Teflon Don]

This post can't possibly be serious.

Why not? Would you side with illegal alien gang members who violently raped and killed one of your female family members? I know you don't care if males enter sports and kick your female family members ass. But, has your hatred of women really descended that far that you would look the other way if they were violently attacked by illegal alien criminal gang members? Or would you feel the need to virtue signal and look out for the criminals?

 

[LurchAddams]

Comrade,

Dude - you're the Putin-sniffing "comrade" here. You justify trump's deference to him. So disappointing and unpatriotic of you!

have you come up with any privileges and immunities enjoyed by American Citizens that you don't demand accrue to illegal aliens?

So - here's a lesson in judging someone as an "illegal citizen". First clue, is that a tattoo that advocates for people with autism is NOT a gang tattoo.

'Incredible’: Trump admin reportedly deports man over autism awareness tattoo

Mother Jones reporter Noah Lanard spoke with families of those detained in a Salvadorian prison. In one case, the Trump administration accused their loved one of having a gang tattoo. The family says it’s a tattoo for autism awareness.

www.msnbc.com

Also, being pro-Palestinian is not a reason to cancel someone's student visa and deport them. Free speech is not just for you and your fellow trumptards:

Tufts University student can’t be deported to Turkiye without court order

Pro-Palestine student Rumeysa Ozturk was arrested on Tuesday by US immigration authorities in Massachusetts.

www.aljazeera.com

If not, then we can say that you don't recognize that America is a sovereign nation with citizens, or borders. You are simply a threat to democracy.

I respect our laws and understand that our immigration laws need to be enforced. What I don't respect is your masked, jack-booted thugs surrounding people on the street and deporting them in an ex-Constitutional manner. Either you respect constitutional due process, or you don't. You don't just respect them when you want to.

 

[BartenderElite]

Why not? Would you side with illegal alien gang members who violently raped and killed one of your female family members? I know you don't care if males enter sports and kick your female family members ass. But, has your hatred of women really descended that far that you would look the other way if they were violently attacked by illegal alien criminal gang members? Or would you feel the need to virtue signal and look out for the criminals?

Not that you will care - but I will no longer read your replies, or respond to them.

All the best.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Dude - you're the Putin-sniffing "comrade" here. You justify trump's deference to him. So disappointing and unpatriotic of you!

Didn't you cry and wail when the wall fell? Your dreams of America falling to Russia, crushed?

So - here's a lesson in judging someone as an "illegal citizen". First clue, is that a tattoo that advocates for people with autism is NOT a gang tattoo.

'Incredible’: Trump admin reportedly deports man over autism awareness tattoo

Mother Jones reporter Noah Lanard spoke with families of those detained in a Salvadorian prison. In one case, the Trump administration accused their loved one of having a gang tattoo. The family says it’s a tattoo for autism awareness.

www.msnbc.com

Also, being pro-Palestinian is not a reason to cancel someone's student visa and deport them. Free speech is not just for you and your fellow trumptards:

Tufts University student can’t be deported to Turkiye without court order

Pro-Palestine student Rumeysa Ozturk was arrested on Tuesday by US immigration authorities in Massachusetts.

www.aljazeera.com

I respect our laws and understand that our immigration laws need to be enforced. What I don't respect is your masked, jack-booted thugs surrounding people on the street and deporting them in an ex-Constitutional manner. Either you respect constitutional due process, or you don't. You don't just respect them when you want to.

Now that you've ducked the question with a silly straw man fallacy, let me repeat: have you come up with any privileges and immunities enjoyed by American Citizens that you don't demand accrue to illegal aliens?

You deny that America is a sovereign nation. You not only don't respect our laws, you don't respect our existence, Comrade.

 

[archives]

I am not surprised you went and got all hyperbolic on us. It also shows an incredible lack of understanding of both the US Constitution what rights are.

Hey, you are saying if it isn’t in the Constitution, the Government can’t get involved, so it is anything but hypothetical

 

[LurchAddams]

Didn't you cry and wail when the wall fell? Your dreams of America falling to Russia, crushed?

No, it was a symbol against the tyranny you worship and for freedom which most true patriots admire.

Oh, and also, you know what? Reagan had nothing to do with it. His only accomplishment was that he was president when it happened. The wall fell because Russia ran out of money to fight the never-ending war in Afghanistan. Good thing a true patriot like Biden got us the fuck out of there before it happened to us!

Now that you've ducked the question with a silly straw man fallacy, let me repeat: have you come up with any privileges and immunities enjoyed by American Citizens that you don't demand accrue to illegal aliens?

I answered your question, just not the way you had hoped. Immigration laws need to be enforced, along with The Constitution. Whether or not the person is "an illegal" needs to be in accordance with America's laws. A student with a legal student visa should not have their visa revoked just because they demonstrated against Israel or for Palestinians. I also provided you with proof of what happened.

You deny that America is a sovereign nation.

Now there is a "strawman". With every authoritarian loving trumptard like you - every accusation is a confession.

You not only don't respect our laws, you don't respect our existence, Comrade.

Stawman #2. Care to go for 3? You might set a forum record, shit-stain!

 

[SmarterthanYou]

<shrug> When you have no clue or no answer to trump's criminality and harm he's doing - you lie. When trumptards don't like the facts, they just create their own.

HAHAHAHA...............of course when you have no logical rebuttal or information, just call that person a trumper.........that fixes everything

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Hey, you are saying if it isn’t in the Constitution, the Government can’t get involved, so it is anything but hypothetical

exactly, if it's not in the US Constitution, then the federal government has no power. I get that you mainliners have a hard time understanding that the government can't do anything, but that's the crux of it

 

[archives]

exactly, if it's not in the US Constitution, then the federal government has no power. I get that you mainliners have a hard time understanding that the government can't do anything, but that's the crux of it

So the Government can’t do anything about theft, nowhere in the Constitution does it say theft isn’t unsanctioned

 

[SmarterthanYou]

So the Government can’t do anything about theft, nowhere in the Constitution does it say theft isn’t unsanctioned

once again, you claim to understand the Constitution but it's obviously you don't.