Confederate Statues

[LV426]

So you admit you agree with the Nazi's. I bet Hitler would have loved you.

Wow...so desperate. The cracks in your armor are showing, your desperation reeks. You rightly recognize you are on the side of monsters, so you are lashing out at those who point it out in an effort to diminish your own personal hideousness.

BTW - if I went through your posts, I wouldn't find any defending or showing support for the Nazis who marched in Charlottesville? Even if that support comes in the form of criticism of antifa? Because I'm always up for a challenge, but am willing to give you an out right now to avoid the comeuppance.

I'm not defending any thing except the rule of law fuck face.

Interesting.

So would your defense of the "rule of law" also apply to the fact that Confederates broke the rule of law when they seceded, and thus monuments to them are insulting to the "rule of law"?

 

[evince]

It's tempting to immediately condemn those who illegally pull down confederate statues, but it's important to remember the context of that vandalism. At least in North Carolina, a law at the state level has made it effectively impossible for communities to remove such statues by lawful means. Even if a university is uncomfortable with subjecting its students to a monument to white supremacy, they cannot take it down or even move it to a less prominent place without a change of the law at the state level. Similarly, if a community of color doesn't like having to see a defender of slavery honored in their midst, they cannot protect themselves from that eyesore through legal action at the community or even city level. By denying people in those locales usable legal tools for addressing offensive statues, the state has effectively invited extra-legal action by those communities.

Here's an idea for an alternative. As I understand it, the law was worded such that it only made it illegal to take the statue down or to move it to a less prominent place. If that's right, you could simply cover it up. The left has a lot of really talented artists. So, just have some design structures that can be built around the offensive ones, hiding them completely. That could include practical things like little clock towers or obelisks for posting placards. Or it could be other monuments, designed to fit snugly (and maybe irreversibly) over the offensive ones and to send a very different message.

For example, put up a big pedestal, covering the offensive statue, and on top of that put a statue to John Adams Hyman, the first African American Congress member in North Carolina. Or have it feature statues of several black students, representing the first black students at UNC, following court-ordered desegregation. Then the statue hasn't been brought down or moved, so nothing illegal has happened, but it's been transformed from a celebration of white supremacist treason to a celebration of something positive.

or how about a plaque that briefly tells the racist history of the statue and how racist it is and why
or an artistic rendering of people trying to take it down


great ideas on your part Onenuli

 

[CFM]

So this is another tactic of the cowardly right.

They know that we're debating topics on the board...so when they reach the end of the debate, and lose it, the next tactic becomes...well, go ahead and do it then.

So you're conceding the debate.

Thanks.

You're the one claiming what should be done to the remains, the headstones, and the flags. Typical tactic by the left to say what then run from doing it themselves.

 

[CFM]

LOL!

You're not rich "in any way" other than being wealthy in stupidity and racism.

I think you just posture about yourself on these boards, and that you're terrified of everyone here finding out your true identity. I think you have a lot to be ashamed of, but you pretend you don't here to make yourself feel better.

My ultimate goal is to give you that little push over the edge. And all I have to do is be patient. Because you're a sloppy person who is going to slip up eventually. Your most closely-guarded secret, your identity, is the thing I'm gunning for here. Because I know just as well as you do, that if your identity were revealed, you wouldn't be posturing like you do.

Not my first rodeo.

It could be your last.

 

[CFM]

Nothing you post here is based on anyone's words. You're just mashing your keyboard and spraying as much trash as you can to try and sneak some of it through. It's Trump's strategy of lying every second in the hopes that at least one of those lies will go unchallenged. You employ that same strategy here, but it's way, way dumber.




Exactly. No one owes you a thing; including letting you have an opinion.

Based on words you run from.

Your not the one that determines whether I give my opinions. Never have been and never will be. That's your problem. Lot's of talk, no action, and hiding like a coward.

 

[LV426]

You're the one claiming what should be done to the remains, the headstones, and the flags. Typical tactic by the left to say what then run from doing it themselves.

What should be done. Because we are debating this on a message board, doofus. You are trying to shift it off the boards, and the reason you do that is because you lost the debate.

 

[LV426]

It could be your last.

You gonna threaten me?

Bruh, all I have to do is get a picture of your face or your license plate. From there, a background check I can run using the tools at my disposal will reveal your name and address. From there, it's an easy path to finding your employer. Don't fuck with people or challenge people on the internet. It never ends well for the challenger. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose.

 

[CFM]

What should be done. Because we are debating this on a message board, doofus. You are trying to shift it off the boards, and the reason you do that is because you lost the debate.

Unless you're man enough to do it, and it's apparent you're not, claiming something should be done is nothing more than the cowardly rants of an internet pussy.

 

[LV426]

Based on words you run from.

I didn't run from anything. You're the coward here who wants to take the debate off the boards because you lost it here. So rather than defend your position, you act like a Mean Girl and say "oh yeah? well, go ahead and do it then."

Total pussy move.

 

[CFM]

You gonna threaten me?

Bruh, all I have to do is get a picture of your face or your license plate. From there, a background check I can run using the tools at my disposal will reveal your name and address. From there, it's an easy path to finding your employer. Don't fuck with people or challenge people on the internet. It never ends well for the challenger. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose.

You mean like claim you're going to take pictures of someone, their license plate, etc. and use it in malicious ways?

Hard to do from behind your keyboard.

 

[Granule]

Those who chose to break the law to shelter Frank were standing up to the right-wing racists who had taken over Holland. I applaud that law-breaking.

Who doesn't?

 

[CFM]

I didn't run from anything. You're the coward here who wants to take the debate off the boards because you lost it here. So rather than defend your position, you act like a Mean Girl and say "oh yeah? well, go ahead and do it then."

Total pussy move.

Apparently you don't think it should be done unless you're willing to do it.

My position is if YOU'RE going to claim it should be done, do it. Otherwise, you either don't think it should be done or you know you're too big of a coward to do it.

 

[LV426]

Your not the one that determines whether I give my opinions

Your opinions are trash, and so is your personality. You're not entitled to having an opinion because entitlements are earned...and you've done nothing to earn your opinions.

Lot's of talk, no action, and hiding like a coward.

You're the one who refuses to identify yourself to verify the wild claims you make about yourself here, bruh. You're the one who always wants to take the debate off the board because you lost it here. Every single argument of yours results in one of two things:

1. You invoking a personal circumstance that you refuse to verify
2. You wanting to move a debate off the boards into physical action

The reason you do both those things is because you recognize your argument is shit, cannot defend it, but think you can still save face by placing unreasonable expectations on a debate. Like meeting in public. Us meeting in public won't suddenly make your arguments more credible. If anything, it'll make them less credible because I can just doxx you. Then your entire life goes under the microscope, and it is splashed across the internet for all to see. Then it gets to your employer who I can bet won't be pleased to know that the guy he hired, whose health care he pays for, says racist shit on the internet while on company time.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

your desperation reeks.

The only thing that reeks is the shit coming out of your mouth.

 

[LV426]

Unless you're man enough to do it, and it's apparent you're not, claiming something should be done is nothing more than the cowardly rants of an internet pussy.

Jesus Christ...

I seriously think you cannot tell the difference between the internet and real life.

The entire purpose of these boards is for us to debate, not to go and do physical actions to satisfy the posturing of Conservative cowards.

You are the one too cowardly to verify your personal claims, and you are also the one too cowardly to admit you lost a debate.

You have a personality disorder.

 

[CFM]

Your opinions are trash, and so is your personality. You're not entitled to having an opinion because entitlements are earned...and you've done nothing to earn your opinions.




You're the one who refuses to identify yourself to verify the wild claims you make about yourself here, bruh. You're the one who always wants to take the debate off the board because you lost it here. Every single argument of yours results in one of two things:

1. You invoking a personal circumstance that you refuse to verify
2. You wanting to move a debate off the boards into physical action

The reason you do both those things is because you recognize your argument is shit, cannot defend it, but think you can still save face by placing unreasonable expectations on a debate. Like meeting in public. Us meeting in public won't suddenly make your arguments more credible. If anything, it'll make them less credible because I can just doxx you. Then your entire life goes under the microscope, and it is splashed across the internet for all to see. Then it gets to your employer who I can bet won't be pleased to know that the guy he hired, whose health care he pays for, says racist shit on the internet while on company time.

That is your opinion, boy.

You keep claiming what you're GOING to do. What I'm seeing is the ramblings of a pussy making claims that he thinks he can carry out while sitting behind a keyboard.

 

[LV426]

You mean like claim you're going to take pictures of someone, their license plate, etc. and use it in malicious ways?

You threatened me, asshole. Sunlight is my defense against cockroaches like you. Regardless of what transpires from any IRL meeting between us, one thing will be guaranteed; you will be doxxed.

Do you really, really want to run that risk?

You have everything to lose and nothing to gain.

 

[CFM]

Jesus Christ...

I seriously think you cannot tell the difference between the internet and real life.

The entire purpose of these boards is for us to debate, not to go and do physical actions to satisfy the posturing of Conservative cowards.

You are the one too cowardly to verify your personal claims, and you are also the one too cowardly to admit you lost a debate.

You have a personality disorder.

Thanks for admitting what you say should be done aren't reality but the ramblings of an insecure coward.

Your confuse not liking how I proposed to verify the claims with not willing to verify them.

 

[LV426]

Apparently you don't think it should be done unless you're willing to do it.

No, that's your position.

These boards are to debate things...not to enact physical actions.

But it's interesting how your argument always devolves to that; while you ignore the true purpose of these boards.

Instead, you make threats and use racial slurs...apparently, you don't think it'll blow back on you personally, which is why you hide behind that anonymity here.

I'm totally down for us to meet because I know exactly what will happen. As I said before, this isn't my first rodeo.

 

[LV426]

The only thing that reeks is the shit coming out of your mouth.

Why are you posting a picture of your family reunion?