democrats don't understand what fascism is

[martin]

Fascism is not a form of government. Fascism is an economic system. It is one type of socialism. Fascism is government manipulation of markets.
Democrats WANT fascism. They WANT government to manipulate markets. They WANT governments telling businesses how to operate, when to operate, what price they must sell or buy at, whether their product is politically correct or should be banned, etc.

Banning certain types of lightbulbs, certain types of toilets, certain types of cars, certain types of energy, certain types of guns, etc. IS fascism. It is what Democrats WANT.

Universities do not define any word. Politics is not any branch of science.

The above is a shit pile.

 

[BidenPresident]

The above is a shit pile.

As always. He's a dope.

 

[Into the Night]

It is also a system of organizing society. That's just as dangerous, if not more dangerous, than it's crazy economics. Most of what you posted comes under organizing society and forcing certain ideas on it.

No. Fascism is not a method of organizing a society. Fascism, being a form of socialism, does involve theft of wealth. Society will reject that. No one likes their wealth being stolen. This is why fascism requires an oligarchy or dictatorship to implement it.
Did fascism exist in the United States? Yes. It is in every nation. The oligarchies in the United States are the nameless bureaucrats that simply implement rules by fiat. Examples of such oligarchies are the EPA, the NEA, the BATF, and of course, the Federal Reserve (which is actually communism, since the Federal Reserve owns the money market).

Tyranny is part of what it takes to implement fascism or communism or any form of socialism.

 

[Into the Night]

As for politics not being a science, it is a social science. And, as with other social sciences, it is often ill-defined and lacks good structure. An example of this is in how what is considered Left and Right are defined. These are not normally taken as scalar but instead are simply defined with vague descriptors.

This is a widely used example of this vagueness that doesn't work.

'Social' is not a branch of science. Science isn't vague. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
Remember, Democrats and other leftists name just about anything 'science' to try to legitimize their tyranny.

 

[Into the Night]

Is there a definition of "fascism" that everyone agrees on?

No, since you don't know what the term means.

 

[Into the Night]

The above is a shit pile.

Argument of the Stone fallacy. Again, neither you nor BidenPresident has any counterargument.

...sooo you two will go back to throwing insults again.

 

[Into the Night]

There should be. My definition is a system of government that is:

Authoritarian / totalitarian
Practices statist capitalism and / or socialism
Practices nationalism
Puts the state ahead of the individual subsuming them.
Often practices overt racism / bigotry or other divisions by class, or personal characteristics

Guno has already listed some of these. See my response about them.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

This is my version for defining political, economic, and social systems:

The x axis (horizontal) goes from anarchy / 0 (no government whatsoever) to dictatorship / 10 (a absolute rule / ruler). This is the GOVERNMENT AXIS
The y axis (vertical) goes from barter / 0 (no organized economy) to centrally planned economy / 10 (the state, government, or other authority runs the economy entirely). This is the ECONOMIC AXIS
The z axis (angled) goes from individual /0 (each person acts independently) to group / society /10 (the state or society subsumes the individual entirely. Individuals don't count). This is the SOCIAL AXIS

You can judge where a nation is by scoring the three axis on how that nation does things. Each one goes from 0 to 10. A nation with all zeros would be defined as the extreme Right while a nation with all tens would be defined as the extreme Left. Of course, any nation is really going to be somewhere between about a 4 to 9 on each scale as anything less than a 4 really ends up not being an organized state.

 

[BidenPresident]

No, since you don't know what the term means.

fuck off you brain dead jerkoff

 

[Trumpet]

fuck off you brain dead jerkoff

Into the Scum is one of the JPP forum idiot.

 

[moon]

Insurance companies add costs and complications to medical care. They are not supplying a service but bleeding the system. If you are lucky, you have not had to fight insurance companies to cover procedures. It is a terrible problem. They fight providing coverage because doing so increases profits.

There have been movies about insurance companies turning down ALL claims as a matter of first policy.

 

[archives]

Fascism is not a form of government. Fascism is an economic system. It is one type of socialism. Fascism is government manipulation of markets.
Democrats WANT fascism. They WANT government to manipulate markets. They WANT governments telling businesses how to operate, when to operate, what price they must sell or buy at, whether their product is politically correct or should be banned, etc.

Banning certain types of lightbulbs, certain types of toilets, certain types of cars, certain types of energy, certain types of guns, etc. IS fascism. It is what Democrats WANT.

Universities do not define any word. Politics is not any branch of science.

Bullshit, Fascism is political, Fascist movements do not have any fixed economic principles and have included both elements of capitalism and socialism

 

[T. A. Gardner]

No. Fascism is not a method of organizing a society. Fascism, being a form of socialism, does involve theft of wealth. Society will reject that. No one likes their wealth being stolen. This is why fascism requires an oligarchy or dictatorship to implement it.
Did fascism exist in the United States? Yes. It is in every nation. The oligarchies in the United States are the nameless bureaucrats that simply implement rules by fiat. Examples of such oligarchies are the EPA, the NEA, the BATF, and of course, the Federal Reserve (which is actually communism, since the Federal Reserve owns the money market).

Tyranny is part of what it takes to implement fascism or communism or any form of socialism.

Sure it is. The economy can vary some--a good deal-- in a fascist state. Capitalism can be allowed. Statist capitalism is the norm. Fascism requires nationalism (as opposed to internationalism like Communism wants). Fascism tends towards authoritarian or totalitarianism not because of the economy but because it requires the individual be consumed within the state. That is, the state controls what people do, say, and think.

Tyranny, as you put it, is necessary for control of society in a fascist state. The economy can work in a variety of ways so long as it remains doing rightthink to use an Orwellian term.

 

[Trumpet]

Bullshit, Fascism is political, Fascist movements do not have any fixed economic principles and have included both elements of capitalism and socialism

Apparently, Into the Scum needs to do some research to learn the difference between socialism and fascism.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Apparently, Into the Scum needs to do some research to learn the difference between socialism and fascism.

Socialism is an economic system. Fascism is a system of government for a society that incorporates socialist ideas within it.

 

[Trumpet]

Socialism is an economic system. Fascism is a system of government for a society that incorporates socialist ideas within it.

You need to look-up the definition of fascism.

Fascism is a system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

 

[Into the Night]

Actually just the opposite. Makes the individual supreme. Treats the state as an individual. Fascism is anti-democratic.

The state is not an individual. Redefinition fallacy.
Fascism does not make the individual supreme. It is government manipulation of markets. It is government being tyrannical and dictating to individuals how they will run their business or economy. It is elitism. It is government 'elites' telling business they know how to run an individual's business better than the individual.

You don't want a democracy. You want an oligarchy. Redefinition fallacy (democracy<->oligarchy). You discard the Constitution of the United States also, as well as all state Constitutions. You don't want a republic either.

 

[archives]

The state is not an individual. Redefinition fallacy.
Fascism does not make the individual supreme. It is government manipulation of markets. It is government being tyrannical and dictating to individuals how they will run their business or economy. It is elitism. It is government 'elites' telling business they know how to run an individual's business better than the individual.

You don't want a democracy. You want an oligarchy. Redefinition fallacy (democracy<->oligarchy). You discard the Constitution of the United States also, as well as all state Constitutions. You don't want a republic either.

Bullshit fallacy

 

[Into the Night]

fuck off you brain dead jerkoff

...annnnd back to the usual insults.

 

[Into the Night]

There have been movies about insurance companies turning down ALL claims as a matter of first policy.

...and YOU believe EVERYTHING that Hollywood tells you to believe, don't you?

Gawd...what a loser.