democrats don't understand what fascism is

[moon]

The premise of the thread is correct. Democrats do not understand fascism.
Neither do Republicans.

Both vote to give fascist Israel billions of dollars every year. The result ? Israeli fascism.

‘Israel’s Government Has neo-Nazi Ministers. It Really Does Recall Germany in 1933’
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...-in-1933/00000186-3a49-d80f-abff-7ac9c7ff0000

Anti-gov't Protesters to Rally Across Israel, Call for a Nation-wide Strike on Monday
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...n-monday/00000186-40ce-dfa7-afee-ffeff6110000

Netanyahu's Plan to Kill Israel's Media Enters Its Next Phase
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...li-media/00000185-e344-d093-ada5-eb57536d0000

It’s Official Now: Fascism Is Us
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/202...sm-is-us/00000184-3f3a-d253-a196-3fbed3850000

Myanmar Acquired Spyware From Israeli Cyber-intelligence Firm Cognyte, New Docs Reveal
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...s-reveal/00000185-b415-d2c1-afe7-fc37abf40000

 

[Port Tack]

why didnt the squad force a healthcare vote when they had pelosi over a barrell?

#forcethevote

If you had a couple brain cells to rub together you might know the answer to that stupid fucking question.

 

[Port Tack]

the problem is big health insurance and big pharma having a strangle hold over medical care.

they conspire in the media to encourage a high carb, low fat diet to get the whole population on insulin over time.

oh, and the death jab kill shot is contrary to optimal health.

do you recognize these facts?

No, they have a strangle hold over the idiot republicans in our congress.

 

[Port Tack]

the key is too eliminate insurance companies, the middle man that separates the paying consumer from the provider and jacks up prices based on fear and corruption.

insurance companies only serve to cronify the market in healthcare.

The insurance industry does not have to go anywhere, just out of the health insurance business. Eliminating the insurance company from health insurance and having the consumer (patient) deal with the provider (govt) is what you call universal healthcare or single payer, so you are learning.

 

[Port Tack]

single payer is just allowing the pharma-medical complex cartel to operate under a state seal, and be granted a state backed monopoly. pure fascism.

politicians are not going to take up medicine, well maybe rand paul.

Utter fucking stupidity.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

They call it 'democracy'.

Cover / code word for "mob rule."

 

[BidenPresident]

Cover / code word for "mob rule."

Funny. You support mob rule.

 

[Lao Tse]

The insurance industry does not have to go anywhere, just out of the health insurance business. Eliminating the insurance company from health insurance and having the consumer (patient) deal with the provider (govt) is what you call universal healthcare or single payer, so you are learning.

no.

the government would just be the middle man using the power of law to game markets at both ends. just another middle man.

probably still they will contract with the nazis running insurance and pharma now.

they will just switch the logo to a flag.

 

[Lao Tse]

Utter fucking stupidity.

yes you are.

 

[Nordberg]

The insurance industry does not have to go anywhere, just out of the health insurance business. Eliminating the insurance company from health insurance and having the consumer (patient) deal with the provider (govt) is what you call universal healthcare or single payer, so you are learning.

Insurance companies add costs and complications to medical care. They are not supplying a service but bleeding the system. If you are lucky, you have not had to fight insurance companies to cover procedures. It is a terrible problem. They fight providing coverage because doing so increases profits.

 

[Lao Tse]

If you had a couple brain cells to rub together you might know the answer to that stupid fucking question.

what's the answer?

dems didnt want to have to go on the record being actually against healthcare for all?

 

[Lao Tse]

Insurance companies add costs and complications to medical care. They are not supplying a service but bleeding the system. If you are lucky, you have not had to fight insurance companies to cover procedures. It is a terrible problem. They fight providing coverage because doing so increases profits.

 

[Into the Night]

Right wingers cherrypick their way to creating a leftist definition of fascism when fascism is the polar opposite of liberal, or leftist, philosophy. There isn't a university political science department anywhere that would
say fascism is Leftist.

Fascism is not a form of government. Fascism is an economic system. It is one type of socialism. Fascism is government manipulation of markets.
Democrats WANT fascism. They WANT government to manipulate markets. They WANT governments telling businesses how to operate, when to operate, what price they must sell or buy at, whether their product is politically correct or should be banned, etc.

Banning certain types of lightbulbs, certain types of toilets, certain types of cars, certain types of energy, certain types of guns, etc. IS fascism. It is what Democrats WANT.

Universities do not define any word. Politics is not any branch of science.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Fascism is not a form of government. Fascism is an economic system. It is one type of socialism. Fascism is government manipulation of markets.
Democrats WANT fascism. They WANT government to manipulate markets. They WANT governments telling businesses how to operate, when to operate, what price they must sell or buy at, whether their product is politically correct or should be banned, etc.

Banning certain types of lightbulbs, certain types of toilets, certain types of cars, certain types of energy, certain types of guns, etc. IS fascism. It is what Democrats WANT.

Universities do not define any word. Politics is not any branch of science.

It is also a system of organizing society. That's just as dangerous, if not more dangerous, than it's crazy economics. Most of what you posted comes under organizing society and forcing certain ideas on it.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

As for politics not being a science, it is a social science. And, as with other social sciences, it is often ill-defined and lacks good structure. An example of this is in how what is considered Left and Right are defined. These are not normally taken as scalar but instead are simply defined with vague descriptors.

This is a widely used example of this vagueness that doesn't work.

 

[BidenPresident]

Is there a definition of "fascism" that everyone agrees on?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Is there a definition of "fascism" that everyone agrees on?

There should be. My definition is a system of government that is:

Authoritarian / totalitarian
Practices statist capitalism and / or socialism
Practices nationalism
Puts the state ahead of the individual subsuming them.
Often practices overt racism / bigotry or other divisions by class, or personal characteristics

 

[Into the Night]

Fourteen Points of Fascism

Fascism is simply government manipulation of markets. There are no 'points' of fascism. These comments you have made, however, often relate to tyrannical governments that implement fascism or communism as a predominant economic system. Many of these are being done by Democrats today:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

Patriotism has nothing to do with tyranny or economies. There is nothing wrong with patriotism. It shows pride in country and culture. A nation without patriotism shows loss of direction and misery. It is what Democrats WANT. They despise patriotism, the Constitution of the United States, and all State constitutions. They despise a free nation or free States. This comment is nothing more than an attempt to disparage patriotism.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of \u201cneed.\u201d The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

Which is what Democrats are doing.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Which is what Democrats are doing. Democrats spend much of their time trying to divide people into various groups and setting them at odds with each other. It is Democrats that are racist. It is Democrats that are bigots.

4. Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Obviously, you hate the people willing to sacrifice everything, even their lives if necessary, to protect your own ability to make this stupid comment here. Obviously, you are confusing military service with thuggery. By 'domestic agenda', you mean socialism, the taking of wealth from the productive members of society and giving it to unproductive members of society. In other words, communism. Fascism is but a stepping stone on the way to communism. It is what the Democrats WANT.

5. Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

So, like the other Democrats, you don't know what gender is, doesn't know what a women is, doesn't know what marriage is, desire to murder your own offspring, etc. Again, you are also trying to discard the Constitution of the United States here.

6. Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes the media are directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media are indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

This is what Democrats are doing. Fortunately, there are some sources of news that the Democrats cannot fully control. Democrats WANT censorship (example: the number of leftist twits here that like their huge ignore lists. Another example: Biden's 'misinformation' department.).

7. Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

This has nothing to do with national security. Non-sequitur fallacy. Every nation must respect and enforce it's own borders, or there is no nation. Democrats WANT to destroy the nation known as the United States. They do not respect State borders, or national borders. Biden chooses to allow an effective erasure of the national border, allowing and encouraging invasion. Protecting the national border is a primary function of the federal government, and Biden's acts are treason in and of itself. This is but one act of treason he has committed as Chief Puppet. There are others. I have already listed them.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

Non-sequitur fallacy. Religion has nothing to do with economic systems. Religion has nothing to do with government except in theocracies. Masking dictatorships and oligarchies as 'religious' is just a blame game. Democrats WANT to impose state religions at the national level (unconstitutional). These are the religions of the Church of No God, the Church of Covid, the Church of Global Warming, and the Church of Green.

9. Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

This is just bigotry and avarice.
A corporation is a type of business organization. Nothing more. It is not evil in and of itself. Fascism is government manipulation of markets. Reversal fallacy.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

Labor unions are themselves a form of fascism. It is union leaders acting like a government and manipulating markets through price controls and tyrannical methods. It is what the Democrats WANT.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free _expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

Mandating that government spend money on the arts is just communism. It is what the Democrats WANT. Communism is NOT free expression of any art.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations

This is what Democrats are doing. Removing and defunding police departments so they can impose their own 'elite' police department. Democrats WANT a national police force with virtually unlimited power. While not fascism, it IS tyranny.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

What Democrats are doing.

14. Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

What Democrats are doing.

NONE of these points has anything to do with fascism or communism. Several DO, however, describe the tyrannical government typically required to implement fascism and communism. It is what DEMOCRATS WANT.

 

[Into the Night]

No country provides free healthcare. They simply tax everyone and set up a system where all people get complete healthcare. The system is cheaper than ours and better.

Communism is not cheaper.

 

[BidenPresident]

Puts the state ahead of the individual subsuming them.

Actually just the opposite. Makes the individual supreme. Treats the state as an individual. Fascism is anti-democratic.