Democrats failing to pass anti-war bill

Cypress said:
lol. Very insightful.

You know what? I'd like to know if alleged anti-war republicans who are crying that Dems won't cut off funding, have sent emails to their reps and senators demading a cut off of funds. My guess? Zero emails and letters have been sent. And How many demonstrations, vigils, and protests have alleged anti-war republicans participated in demanding an end to the war and a cut off of funds. Again, my guess? Zero.
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Cypress, you are good at making guesses that aren't correct. I've emailed Voinovich multiple times. You did the same kind of thing on the other site when we had a debate on Libertarianism and its inability to attract the black race. Except you didn't guess, you were 100% sure that I wouldn't see a black man at a Libertarian meeting. Unfortunatly for you, a black man was the organizer for our group.
 
Onceler said:
No, it isn't. Usually, when Republicans say "you're putting the troops in the middle," or "you're playing politics with the troops", they're employing false outrage.

However, once you cut off funds, you ARE putting them in the middle, and playing a political game w/ them.

It is not the way to end this war.
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Well how would you like the war ended?

Take your time. It's not like kids are dying over there everyday or anything.
 
Warren said:
I'm not a Republican, but I have sent several emails to Republican Congressmen. Here on campus I have created a partnership between SDS and the College LP which holds anti-war protests on our Quad every week.

What are you doing, praytell?
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Protests, vigils, emails, letters, phone calls, published letters in editorial pages, politcal and financial support to candidates as appropriate.

You said yourself yesterday, that I was almost singlehandidly responsible on this board for getting pro-war types, to change their mind about the war. ;)
 
Warren said:
Well how would you like the war ended?

Take your time. It's not like kids are dying over there everyday or anything.
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More pressure on naysaying politicians from more votes closer to election day on a bonafide timeline, with continued pressure from voters.

The only way the war ends is with a veto-proof piece of legislation committing to a timeline for withdrawal.
 
If you read back to 2006 before the Dems took congress, this same question was being asked, 'How do you plan on ending this war?' The only ones with a difinitive answer said 'They have to fund it somehow, right?' Reid and Pelosi were against that however and could not give a clear answer on what they are going to do. We know cutting off funds will get us out of there, and its about the only tool against Bush we got. Otherwise, we'll be waiting until the next president, and you can't even guarantee they'll do anything about it.
 
Onceler said:
More pressure on naysaying politicians from more votes closer to election day on a bonafide timeline, with continued pressure from voters.

The only way the war ends is with a veto-proof piece of legislation committing to a timeline for withdrawal.
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So uhhh we just wait until the Democrats can muster a filibuster and veto proof piece of legislation?

This war will last till 2040.
 
Cypress said:
Protests, vigils, emails, letters, phone calls, published letters in editorial pages, politcal and financial support to candidates as appropriate.

You said yourself yesterday, that I was almost singlehandidly responsible on this board for getting pro-war types, to change their mind about the war. ;)
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When you convince SF, I'll be truly impressed. :)
 
Warren said:
So uhhh we just wait until the Democrats can muster a filibuster and veto proof piece of legislation?

This war will last till 2040.
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Please.

They're not that far away. Sit tight & watch what happens as we get closer to the '08 election.

Cutting funding is not the way to do it.
 
DigitalDave said:
Cypress, you are good at making guesses that aren't correct. I've emailed Voinovich multiple times. You did the same kind of thing on the other site when we had a debate on Libertarianism and its inability to attract the black race. Except you didn't guess, you were 100% sure that I wouldn't see a black man at a Libertarian meeting. Unfortunatly for you, a black man was the organizer for our group.
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Dave, is this a freudian slip? I didn't say a word about libertarians. ;)
 
Cypress said:
Dave, is this a freudian slip? I didn't say a word about libertarians. ;)
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Are you still trying to get us all to admit that we are die-hard Republicans and Bush apologists?

Honestly cypress it's one thing for UScitizen and CK to keep spewing that trash, but you should know better.
 
Onceler said:
Please.

They're not that far away. Sit tight & watch what happens as we get closer to the '08 election.

Cutting funding is not the way to do it.
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Well I don't think the Dems will have the support or the political cahones to cut off funding so I guess I will have to wait and see what happens.

Just remember that you and anyone who oppooses cutting off funds shares the blame for all the kids killed in Iraq between now and our withdrawal.
 
So much for straw polls...........

Weren't some libs in here claiming 54% were against the war...if this were true don't you think this would be reflected in the Congress/Senate vote?
 
Cypress said:
Dave, is this a freudian slip? I didn't say a word about libertarians. ;)
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I'm talking about what you said on the other site cypress. I am a Libertarian that leans slightly republican. Your quote over there was:

"DW, next time your at an LP party meeting, and you don't see one single minority in attendance, don't scratch your head and wonder why the LP can't attract minorities:" - cypress

Ron Paul meetup organizer in my area is a minority. Proof: http://ronpaul.meetup.com/249/?gj=sj6
 
Warren said:
Well I don't think the Dems will have the support or the political cahones to cut off funding so I guess I will have to wait and see what happens.

Just remember that you and anyone who oppooses cutting off funds shares the blame for all the kids killed in Iraq between now and our withdrawal.
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Warren, with the big bomb throwing! Nice!

Try rational debate for a change. Really...it's better...
 
Cutting off funds would impose a truly arbitrary timeline (see: immediate), that really WOULD leave Iraq in as unstable a condition as possible.

So, whatever hundreds of thousands of people die after that - Warren, that's on your hands, buddy...
 
Onceler said:
Warren, with the big bomb throwing! Nice!

Try rational debate for a change. Really...it's better...
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Show me how I'm wrong. If we could cut off funds tomorrow we would save lives. You tell me that's a poor strategic move and that we should wait.

Explain why more kids should die just so that the Democrats don't have to suffer political fallout.
 
Onceler said:
Cutting off funds would impose a truly arbitrary timeline (see: immediate), that really WOULD leave Iraq in as unstable a condition as possible.

So, whatever hundreds of thousands of people die after that - Warren, that's on your hands, buddy...
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Oh so you're a Republican now? We're fighting them over there so we don't have to over here? Chaos and civil war will follow our withdrawal?
 
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