‘Dilbert’ dropped by The Post, other papers, after cartoonist’s racist rant

Doc Dutch said:
First, spreading lies and hate is exactly why Fox News is being sued, neef. It causes harm.

Second, only fucking morons think he's going to prison for this. If a business doesn't want to do business with someone who advocates child abuse, racism, violent atheism or anything else, they have a right to do so.
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This is true. I've acknowledged this in my posts.
It's not a matter of what people can and can't do.
It's just a matter of how we each view it.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
This is true. I've acknowledged this in my posts.
It's not a matter of what people can and can't do.
It's just a matter of how we each view it.
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Agreed on views, yet you are acting like Adams was done a great harm instead of acknowledging that his actions have consequences.

In the end, this is all about money; mixing business with politics is bad for business, and Adams mixed politics with business. Worse, he pushed a White Supremacist view which attacked non-white readers of all the publishers with whom Adams was doing business.

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Doc Dutch said:
Agreed on views, yet you are acting like Adams was done a great harm instead of acknowledging that his actions have consequences.

In the end, this is all about money; mixing business with politics is bad for business, and Adams mixed politics with business. Worse, he pushed a White Supremacist view which attacked non-white readers of all the publishers with whom Adams was doing business.

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OK. I didn't express myself clearly enough.
I don't care about Adams at all.
I just feel bad for the people who enjoyed the cartoon.
They're the aggrieved ones.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Ahh, but when one is presented with such blatant bigotry by a successful member of that business, we have a choice....pretend it doesn't exist and continue to support that person by purchasing his product carrier or refuse to buy it unless the carrier ousts that person.

It is what it is, and it's perfectly logical and just.
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I'm not convinced. It increases the partisan split and increases the hate against others based on their political views. We may detest those views but to judge a person solely on politics regardless of their other characteristics seems trivial because politics is not that important to many people.

It is very like those people who spread hate because athletes took a knee. It simply creates great media stories because it involves conflict. People who were not even aware of the those taking a knee accused the NFL of being "unpatriotic" because others told them they were.

I have enjoyed Dilbert for many years while knowing nothing about the cartoonist. Now, I am supposed to hate him.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
OK. I didn't express myself clearly enough.
I don't care about Adams at all.
I just feel bad for the people who enjoyed the cartoon.
They're the aggrieved ones.
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Which goes back to the "90% how you react to it" statement (Charles Swindoll) and my comment about your posts in general.

ATTITUDE
by Charles Swindoll

"The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life. Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think, say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company... a church... a home. The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we embrace for that day. We cannot change our past... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play the one string we have, and that is our attitude... I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.

And so it is with you... we are in charge of our Attitudes”
 
Doc Dutch said:
Which goes back to the "90% how you react to it" statement (Charles Swindoll) and my comment about your posts in general.

ATTITUDE
by Charles Swindoll

"The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life. Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think, say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company... a church... a home. The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we embrace for that day. We cannot change our past... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play the one string we have, and that is our attitude... I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.

And so it is with you... we are in charge of our Attitudes”
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Swindoll clearly believed that we have free will to adopt an attitude of our choice.
We might, but it's nothing that's been proven. We just as easily may not.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Swindoll clearly believed that we have free will to adopt an attitude of our choice.
We might, but it's nothing that's been proven. We just as easily may not.
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Sane people do. The weak and stupid, not so much. Where are you in that equation?
 
Flash said:
I'm not convinced. It increases the partisan split and increases the hate against others based on their political views. We may detest those views but to judge a person solely on politics regardless of their other characteristics seems trivial because politics is not that important to many people.

It is very like those people who spread hate because athletes took a knee. It simply creates great media stories because it involves conflict. People who were not even aware of the those taking a knee accused the NFL of being "unpatriotic" because others told them they were.

I have enjoyed Dilbert for many years while knowing nothing about the cartoonist. Now, I am supposed to hate him.
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Nothing new that an artist might have reprehensible personal views unrelated to their work. Adams made the mistake of broadcasting them in a youtube video.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Sane people do. The weak and stupid, not so much. Where are you in that equation?
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This is a totally arbitrary opinion, and we're allowed to have those.

It's a distinct possibility that NOBODY does. It's just as probable .
Let's separate what we wish to believe from what we actually know.

Every natural science known to man seeks cause and effect relationships. There's a physical reason why everything happens.

But here, in one specific instance, we're looking to go beyond that with some special spiritual power that transcends science--free will.

If it indeed does exist, and I admit that I don't know for sure, it would be the ultimate outlier to logic.

I have a very high regard for Aristotelian logic as I've said in the past.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
This is a totally arbitrary opinion, and we're allowed to have those.

It's a distinct possibility that NOBODY does. It's just as probable .
Let's separate what we wish to believe from what we actually know.

Every natural science known to man seeks cause and effect relationships. There's a physical reason why everything happens.

But here, in one specific instance, we're looking to go beyond that with some special spiritual power that transcends science--free will.

If it indeed does exist, and I admit that I don't know for sure, it would be the ultimate outlier to logic.

I have a very high regard for Aristotelian logic as I've said in the past.
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Only the weak look for an excuse to avoid accepting responsibility for their actions. Sure, atheists like to believe we are simply ambulatory meat computers responding to genetic and biochemical programming and of no more value than the sum of their chemical components. The downside to that belief is that it allows them to do whatever they like; rape, abuse children, murder, robbery. The entire catalog of Trump actions are based upon "I take no responsibility". Fine. Go for it, neef.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Insane, even. Certainly irrational.
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Agreed, but we should not destroy a man and his livelihood because of his political views that kept relatively private.

Liberals used to preach toleration and now attack those who are tolerant because they don't dislike the right people enough.
 
Flash said:
I'm not convinced. It increases the partisan split and increases the hate against others based on their political views. We may detest those views but to judge a person solely on politics regardless of their other characteristics seems trivial because politics is not that important to many people.

It is very like those people who spread hate because athletes took a knee. It simply creates great media stories because it involves conflict. People who were not even aware of the those taking a knee accused the NFL of being "unpatriotic" because others told them they were.

I have enjoyed Dilbert for many years while knowing nothing about the cartoonist. Now, I am supposed to hate him.
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Nope, you do you.

I don’t hate the man, I just refuse to support his racism.
 
Flash said:
Agreed, but we should not destroy a man and his livelihood because of his political views that kept relatively private.

Liberals used to preach toleration and now attack those who are tolerant because they don't dislike the right people enough.
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Who is destroying anything? If my lawn service turned out to be supporting, spreading and selling Pedo Nazi propaganda, do I have a right to discontinue using his services? Would I be accused of destroying the "man and his livelihood because of his political views"?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
2 of your examples are attempts BY STUDENTS, NOT BY UNIVERSITY OR COLLEGE MANAGEMENT/AUTHORITY.

One of your examples states the following: "... to be clear, it is not campus operated. This property is operated by a private landlord, and it is not the role of the campus to comment on what private landlords are ‘allowed’ to do,” he said."

And another states this: These supplementary ceremonies are voluntary and are offered in addition to the universities’ regular graduations. Sometimes they’re co-hosted by black campus resource centers and various academic departments.

Again, NOT university or campus policy or rule or regulation.

Do I support such? Nope. I understand the reasoning, but I don't support the "solutions".
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Do any of these universities oppose or reject this stuff?
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Read the articles ... ALL of them. You'll have your answer.
 
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