Do YOU Prefer the Banning of Guns or the Requirement to Own Guns?

Of course, I am allowed a gun. I would not have one in my home. Kids find them. There is anger in homes that guns can exacerbate. I cannot tell you how many people I know who have guns and should not. People with drinking problems with guns. People with anger problems and people with some degree of mental problems with guns. Guns should be limited to people who need them for real reasons. Not for playing tough guy . People who deliver valuable things should be allowed to have them , if they want them.
You mentioned a lot of mental issues yet your only solution is to restrict guns. No worries about domestic abuse, substance abuse or suicide as long as guns are banned, eh? LOL
 
If you consider people who are members of the NRA, or people that have guns in their own homes for theirs and their family's protection to be obsessed with guns, then I would wholeheartedly agree with you. Having said that, can you come up with any kind of statistic that shows of how many NRA members or gun owning families have been indicted for murder? So, my OP gives you a bit of detail concerning two such nations that have opposite rules concerning gun ownership that shows most (if not all gun owners) have zero cases of murder, whereas, a government that restricts gun ownership has the greatest amount of gun murders. I'm obsessed with guns for three reasons: One, because it was a gun that saved my life during combat in Vietnam, and two,: I love to hunt wild animals for the sport of it and for the cooking of certain animals, and three,: so as to keep everyone in my home protected from any possible break-ins, like with mobs of antifa, blm, ows, or just plain anyone that has a total disrespect for law in America--and that would be people like the defund the police Lefties.

How do you know NRA members don’t commit murder when the NRA doesn’t release the names of members?

If more guns kept us safer then America should have the lowest number of gun violence in all the developed world seeing America has more guns out there than any other developed nation, statistically, one for every American, and we all know it isn’t even close in that category

No right is absolute, never has been, and rights are based on reason, not desire

And if you are barracked at home thinking Antifa is going to attack your home you definitely need to get out more, lots more
 
You are not here to discuss American rights. You're clearly only here to scream.

Be a man and take the pain, dumbass.

As I noted on a previous one of his discussions, all we get around here is bottom-barrel right-wingers that drone along to septic media or troll. Seems we have a low-rate troll here considering the elementary-grade bullshit he's peddling.
 
As I noted on a previous one of his discussions, all we get around here is bottom-barrel right-wingers that drone along to septic media or troll. Seems we have a low-rate troll here considering the elementary-grade bullshit he's peddling.

He's a screamer with all the grace and intelligence of a two-year-old wanting its bottle. :)
 
It appears you are correct. He doesn't want to discuss supporting gun rights in America. All he wants is an excuse to curse at someone.

In this case, Democrats/Left Wingers.

Yep, a blowhard troll that magically disappears the second he's faced with FACTS that prove him dead wrong in no uncertain terms.
 
Yep, a blowhard troll that magically disappears the second he's faced with FACTS that prove him dead wrong in no uncertain terms.
Agreed.

An alternative theory is he's a sock for a RWNJ. A good clue is seeing if he favors giving "thanks" to anyone in particular.

Sock or not, like most elderly males on this forum, he's just here to whine, bitch and moan his troubles away. Such people take a sadistic pleasure in posting something outrageous and then seeing people overreact. It only works when people overreact, which is why he had no interest in me.
 
No. People obsessed with killing are the problem.

Your response to that idiot who said that people obsessed with guns are the problem by you telling him...NO, people obsessed with killing are the problem beautifully puts a serious
and quite accurate highlight to my OP's message. Yet, this particular thread is full of idiotic leftist responses that call me a troll etc. I feel sorry for these immature leftists who can't seem to read the writing on the wall that legitimate gun owners are not the problem, but those seeking criminal activity with stolen guns etc. are the problem. Notice how not one of these lefties could give a single example of murder by a legitimate gun owner or any member of the NRA. Yeah, someone said NRA members are not listed or some such thing. I'll say this, if there was a murder by an NRA member--his or her membership with the NRA would surely make the news from any one of those lame-stream leftist so-called news outlets.

Wake up you lefty idiots. Admit it, you'd rather ban our guns and eliminate our 2nd Amendment rights altogether.
 
Of course, I am allowed a gun. I would not have one in my home. Kids find them. There is anger in homes that guns can exacerbate. I cannot tell you how many people I know who have guns and should not. People with drinking problems with guns. People with anger problems and people with some degree of mental problems with guns. Guns should be limited to people who need them for real reasons. Not for playing tough guy . People who deliver valuable things should be allowed to have them , if they want them.

if human lives are worth that little to you, then why are you worried about people being shot all the time?
 
this is still probably the number one piece of crap ideology in all of liberalism. If YOU, or your family, are at home facing someone trying to break in and harm you, who do you call???

Ghostbusters!! Someone with a Proton Pack…

the answer to that is 'someone with a gun'.

I know, the above is the serious and true response. But you know, it would do someone about as much good in most cases if they called the people I suggested. By the time the person with a gun gets there it’ll likely be way too late. Especially for people who live in areas like where I live.
 
I know, the above is the serious and true response. But you know, it would do someone about as much good in most cases if they called the people I suggested. By the time the person with a gun gets there it’ll likely be way too late. Especially for people who live in areas like where I live.

exactly
 
You mentioned a lot of mental issues yet your only solution is to restrict guns. No worries about domestic abuse, substance abuse or suicide as long as guns are banned, eh? LOL

Why do you type that? A good start would be to license guns to people who need them. Keep them away from people who are nuts, overly aggressive, stupid, with mental problems, with prison records or just angry types. That would remove almost all guns. We would all live much better if we did that. But gun nuts hate licensing, training, and proving a need.
People with mental problems should not be allowed to have guns. It is a catch 22. If you want a gun badly, you are proving you should not have one.
 
Why do you type that?

A good start would be to license guns to people who need them. Keep them away from people who are nuts, overly aggressive, stupid, with mental problems, with prison records or just angry types. That would remove almost all guns. We would all live much better if we did that. But gun nuts hate licensing, training, and proving a need.


People with mental problems should not be allowed to have guns. It is a catch 22. If you want a gun badly, you are proving you should not have one.
Because it's my position.

Disagreed that limiting freedom is the best solution.


Agreed about nutjobs. What is your solution to identify them?
 
I guess you flunked logic and statistics.
You are describing yourself.
Two data points cannot establish a trend, and correlation is not causation.
No trend is being discussed here. Correlation can certainly be causation. Two and only two data points designate a delta, or difference.
We are not Honduras or Switzerland. We need more gun legislation not less. Assinine post.
Unconstitutional.
 
Gun in the home makes you less safe.
A water faucet in your home makes you less safe. A set of stairs makes you less safe. A gun makes you safer, since you can deal with intruders.
If there are countries that have guns and do not have shootings, that is proof that we should not have them.
Attempted proof by paradox.
Americans use them on each other. More guns will not make us safer but put us in more peril.
Shoot back. You are only bolstering the case for carrying a gun.
 
Why?

Accidents due to lack of training? People go crazy and start shooting each other?

Do you own a gun? Have you ever owned a gun? Is it legal for you to own a gun?

My own answers are: Yes, Yes, Yes.

You don't own a gun and never have. You have already shown you know nothing about them.
 
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