DUI checkpoints and 'no refusal' weekends

mandatory blood draws, are they constitutional?

  • No, it violates my rights as a person

    Votes: 24 88.9%

  • yes, they are clearly constitutional

    Votes: 3 11.1%
  • Total voters
    27
AssHatZombie said:
it means that constitutional processes, stops with cause and presumption of innocence, are more important long term and in the aggregate, than any one instance of a bad thing that might happen from a refusal to violate these hard won norms.
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In other words, he believes his freedom to drive drunk is more important than even one innocent life. Glad you agree with my interpretation.
 
CFM said:
Hopefully a drunk driver will hit your family
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Why is your heart filled with such hatred, consistently wishing ill upon others?

CFM said:
since you believe the personal choice to drive drunk is more important that the right to life of the innocent person they hit.
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Yet you believe that the personal choice to beat wives into comas is more important than the right to life of the innocent wives being beaten.

Time for you to be jailed, good buddy... Gotta stop wife beating, after all... ;)
 
gfm7175 said:
Why is your heart filled with such hatred, consistently wishing ill upon others?


Yet you believe that the personal choice to beat wives into comas is more important than the right to life of the innocent wives being beaten.

Time for you to be jailed, good buddy... Gotta stop wife beating, after all... ;)
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You're one of many that believes it's OK to drive drunk even if it takes innocent lives.

I don't believe it's OK to beat your wife. Have you stopped beating your wife?
 
CFM said:
You're one of many that believes it's OK to drive drunk even if it takes innocent lives.

I don't believe it's OK to beat your wife. Have you stopped beating your wife?
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using your logic, since you don't believe it's ok to beat your wife, we could have regular home inspections to ensure you don't beat your wife......................you see how stupid your logic is?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
using your logic, since you don't believe it's ok to beat your wife, we could have regular home inspections to ensure you don't beat your wife......................you see how stupid your logic is?
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Not even a close comparison.

Why do you beat your wife? Based on your logic that she isn't supposed to be protected, what's keeping you from continuing to do so?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
do i have a right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure?
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The problem is you consider anything you don't like as unreasonable.

Why can't you be man enough to admit you think you have a right to drive drunk and if an innocent person happens to die because of it your right is still paramount. That's the "oh well" mindset.
 
CFM said:
The problem is you consider anything you don't like as unreasonable.
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any red blooded, freedom loving, American would absolutely consider anything they don't like as unreasonable, especially since it interferes with their privacy and movement.

CFM said:
Why can't you be man enough to admit you think you have a right to drive drunk and if an innocent person happens to die because of it your right is still paramount. That's the "oh well" mindset.
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why can't you be man enough to 1. answer my question about random stops for drivers license checks and 2. comprehend that the 4th Amendment prohibits the government from random checkpoints doesn't mean i think i have a 'right' to drink and drive? and 3. point out to us here, ANYWHERE, in the constitution where it says nobody has a right to drink and drive
 
CFM said:
No one has the right to make the personal choice to drive drunk.
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...and when there is justifiable cause to pull them over for drunk driving, they get pulled over and charged with drunk driving. But people DO have their 4th, 5th, 10th, and 14th Amendment rights, of which such "DUI checkpoints" are violating...

CFM said:
No one's rights were violated.
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Yes they were. DUI checkpoints violate the Constitution, as referenced above.

CFM said:
Being inconvenienced doesn't do that.
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In this case it does.

CFM said:
If you think so, run a red light or a stop sign.
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... and there would now be justifiable cause to pull me over, as I was not obeying traffic signs.
 
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