DUI checkpoints and 'no refusal' weekends

mandatory blood draws, are they constitutional?

  • No, it violates my rights as a person

    Votes: 24 88.9%

  • yes, they are clearly constitutional

    Votes: 3 11.1%
  • Total voters
    27
SmarterthanYou said:
he's not going to, he's too cowardly, as is domer. they won't do anything that shakes their foundation of big brother standing in front of them while they cower behind 'the courts said so'..........
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Correct, CFM won't. The logical conclusion is in direct opposition to his line of argumentation. As a side note, it's interesting seeing him take a very liberal stance on this issue, as I've seen him take a more conservative stance on numerous other issues. Seems like he is very emotional about this particular topic, and that the emotion is clouding his ability to reason in a logical manner.


Domer's issue is that he is completely illiterate in English, logic, science, mathematics, history, ... ... ... The only thing I have noticed him be literate in, up to this point, is Liberal.
 
im really digging this 'failed american' insult. it cuts deep, and is nearly impossible to wield if you are not psychospiritually centered and residing in truth.
 
AssHatZombie said:
im really digging this 'failed american' insult. it cuts deep, and is nearly impossible to wield if you are not psychospiritually centered and residing in truth.
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its a pretty simple label. A true American doesn't need, or want, the government to tell them what the constitution means or what the limits of the governments powers are, because a true American knows this already. The US Constitution is a document written by and for Americans. Anyone who needs or wants the government to tell them what is and isn't constitutional and what they can and cannot do is simply a failed american.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
its a pretty simple label. A true American doesn't need, or want, the government to tell them what the constitution means or what the limits of the governments powers are, because a true American knows this already. The US Constitution is a document written by and for Americans. Anyone who needs or wants the government to tell them what is and isn't constitutional and what they can and cannot do is simply a failed american.
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yeah. it's great. and it doesnt even make sense for globalists to use it, because they disavow the concept of nations. it's ours. fo sho.
 
gfm7175 said:
Per your reasoning presented here: You're one of many that believes it's OK to beat wives into comas even if it takes innocent lives.


Yes you do, per your very own reasoning evidenced above, yet now you are saying that you don't. You are now locked in paradox.


I'm not the one using this reasoning... YOU are.
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You're the one making the claim I believe it's OK to beat your wife. Never said anything of the sort. However, STY and the rest of the drunks have said they believe freedom to choose is more important than someone else's right to life.
 
gfm7175 said:
...and when there is justifiable cause to pull them over for drunk driving, they get pulled over and charged with drunk driving. But people DO have their 4th, 5th, 10th, and 14th Amendment rights, of which such "DUI checkpoints" are violating...


Yes they were. DUI checkpoints violate the Constitution, as referenced above.


In this case it does.


... and there would now be justifiable cause to pull me over, as I was not obeying traffic signs.
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DUI checkpoints don't violate your rights since you don't have a right to not be inconvenienced.

What would you prefer, someone being inconvenienced at a checkpoint or a family of an innocent person being inconvenienced having to attend the funeral of that family member?
 
CFM said:
You're the one making the claim I believe it's OK to beat your wife. Never said anything of the sort. However, STY and the rest of the drunks have said they believe freedom to choose is more important than someone else's right to life.
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can you point out to us where in the constitution it says that I have to value someone elses 'right to life' over my own right?
 
CFM said:
DUI checkpoints don't violate your rights since you don't have a right to not be inconvenienced.

What would you prefer, someone being inconvenienced at a checkpoint or a family of an innocent person being inconvenienced having to attend the funeral of that family member?
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so you condone drivers license checkpoints? stop and frisk? sobriety checkpoints on sidewalks? do you condone police stopping anyone at anytime to run wants and warrants? they are only inconveniences, right?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
can you point out to us where in the constitution it says that I have to value someone elses 'right to life' over my own right?
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Are you saying exercising your rights can violate someone else's rights?

That's why I hope your fucking wife is killed by a drunk driver.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
so you condone drivers license checkpoints? stop and frisk? sobriety checkpoints on sidewalks? do you condone police stopping anyone at anytime to run wants and warrants? they are only inconveniences, right?
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So you support your own selfish wants over the life of an INNOCENT person?
 
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