Edwards gives the speech of a Lifetime...
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Ahhh yes, another parrot. Edwards started the poverty center as a non-profit through UNC. To act like this means he was employed by the university is ridiculous. He was paid from the poverty Center. Not UNC. He took money out of the funds donated to the poverty center. He stated that in the article froggie posted. Just because NPR did a good little spin job on it doesn't change the fact of where he received his money from.
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"Edwards, a highly successful trial lawyer before entering politics, said yesterday he went to work for Fortress to learn more about capital markets. He acknowledged the job provided a financial benefit at a time when his only other salary was $40,000 from the poverty center."
From froggies article....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/10/AR2007051002277_2.html
From froggies article....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/10/AR2007051002277_2.html
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sure that is what all the rich republicans in congress do isn't it ?
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according to the NY times article String posted...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/22/u...tml?ex=1188446400&en=5bb56e73b317c0a4&ei=5070
He teaches at the university SF, you are being so stupid. You don't like Edwards or his policies, fine, just say so.
It appears as if it is a vehicle to launder funds for a campaign and to skirt the laws on campaign donations sizes. His campaign staff also is the staff of this and it pays for their travel? They don't have to report on who donates because he has made it so that donations are not tax-deductable.... There is no limit on donation size. Wow. McCain/Feingold totally is being skirted.
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It doesn't embarass me in the least. It should however embarass you. Given that I at least looked up the center for poverty and found that Edwards went to UNC and started up the center through them. The funds he used were donations to a non-profit entity designed to help fight poverty. So please, continue to drink your kool-aid, listen to the parrots at NPR tell you what to think... kool aid .... gooooooood.
But please, do not look up the history of the center, do not look at the article posted by String, whatever you do.... DO NOT educate yourself at all on the topic.
First of all, wow, what a fucking hit piece, thanks for providing further evidence that the MSM will do anything to keep someone like Edwards out of office, as if more evidence were needed after watching shows like Hardball every night.
Second of all, even the clear hit piece, says that the staffers in question work for the Center for Promise and Opportunity, and that is not "paying his campaign staff". By saying he is using it to pay his campaign staff you are tryign to give the impression he took money out of that organization and paid his campaign staffers for their campaign work. That's not what happened, and I find it disturbing that you would keep making that claim.
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Very convenient how he set it up isn't it Darla. Completely skirting campaign finance laws. He started a non-profit foundation on a college campus. He was not hired by the university. He was the director of the non-profit.
but please continue to ignore the article posted by String. Ignore the one by froggie. Drink your kool-aid with Lorax. We shall call you Cypress 3.09.
The 3 will be for your knowledge on this subject. the nine you get because, well, liberals simply cannot attain a 10.
Yes, it also "appeared" that we were going to be attacked in five minutes according to the NY Times, in early 2003.
That was a hit piece, and that you would swallow it and tell SF how good it tastes, and gee can he cook up some more cause you're still hungry, only shows that you're very gulliable.
I've read Edwards' statements on these so-called "issues" being cooked up by the corporate media, and listened to the other side of the story. Don't feel the need to bother youself to do the same. SF will handle it for you and decide what you need to read. After all, who is more fair and balanced on the subject of John Edwards than Sf? Well, there is RS. By maybe a smidgeon.
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exactly.... but don't tell that to the libs... he was really working for UNC... and we cannot prove anything, because... well... you see... he set up this non-profit so that he wouldn't have to show the trail of funds.
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and THERE it is.... Edwards blames the evil corporations and the libs say... "well gee golly beave... the thief is just a poor little victim in all this... he must be innocent"
I know a little something about disingenious journalism and that was certainly some of the finest I've seen. and I think you know it. I think you like it.
The reporter refused to interview or even speak to any of the direct beneficiaries of the program she wrote about, absolutely refused to. The "primary states" Edwards went into were states he was going to in order to make speeches on campuses to students about poverty, which is what he was supposed ot be doing. To claim that it paid for his travel to primary states is just so dishonest, but I will bet it gets her the Judy Miller Martini treatment. I mean, really. Aren't you even embarrassed?
I'll tell you what, if you and Damo can read this opening:
John Edwards ended 2004 with a problem: how to keep alive his public profile without the benefit of a presidential campaign that could finance his travels and pay for his political staff. Mr. Edwards, who reported this year that he had assets of nearly $30 million, came up with a novel solution, creating a nonprofit organization with the stated mission of fighting poverty. . .
Where a journalist clearly and magically enters the mind of a candidate, and lays out the accusation that 1)edwards had a problem, how to keep his public profile alive and finance his travels (Uhhh, all you people do is complain that he is worth 30 million, so this thesis is false on its face) and 2) he "came up" with a poverty program to solve both of these invented problems...
And both of you can read that and claim that it is journalism in any way shape or form, or that you both had your mouths open waiting to lick up whatever came after that announcement of a non-journalistic opinion piece and hit job, then you are both announcing that you are stupid.
Are you stupid?
No, I am not stupid, but I am also not blind. If it indeed paid for their travel, if indeed all of his campaign staffers work at the organization and get their travel paid for as well from the orgnization, if all the other things you seem to skip over that are not 'entering the mind' of the candidate are true then this is an elegant solution to the campaign finance laws. It simply skirts all of them if indeed it is true. As well as the 527 which was created...
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"The $1.3 million the group raised and spent in 2005 paid for travel, including Mr. Edwards’s “Opportunity Rocks” tour of 10 college campuses, consultants and a Web operation. In addition, some $540,000 went for the “exploration of new ideas,” according to tax filings. "
How do you spend $1.3 million travelling to 10 colleges? $130k per college? Lets fight poverty!
How do you spend $1.3 million travelling to 10 colleges? $130k per college? Lets fight poverty!