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Solid-state batteries show promise, so we are told.
Electric Cars Exploding from Water Damage after Ian
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Solid-state batteries show promise, so we are told.
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That's just an urban legend, however women can cause pumps to catch fire from static electricity. They are far more likely to get in and out of a car whilst it's being fuelled causing static buildup.
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Just about no one cares if you are right.
Have you been not paying attention your Peter Hitchens?
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Gas station owners care, it's a well documented problem, the answer is to ban self fuelling.
Actually, it is not. Gasoline vapors are extremely dangerous, and any spark can (and will) explode them. If you do find yourself surrounded by a pool of gasoline, on a hot day, do not use your cell phone.
Any spark will explode gasoline vapor. On the other hand, self contained batteries are perfectly safe. We have accepted the danger from gasoline, but we are rejecting any danger from batteries, which is good. Gasoline cars will remain dangerous, while electric cars will get safer and safer.
They are far more likely to get in and out of a car whilst it's being fuelled causing static buildup.[/QUOTE]
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The sparks come from static buildup not phones. As I've already stated but you chose to ignore, it's women who cause most of the static related fires because they get in and out of the car whilst fuelling. In the UK, fuelling can only occur if you have a hand on the lever all the time unlike the US.
Funny, no one is talking about banning self fueling of electric cars. Electric cars have all sorts of neat new safety tech that prevent accidents.
I go to NJ regularly, where self serve is banned, and can tell you that the people they hire to pour the gasoline are not the best and brightest. I think it is safer to just have self serve.
Phones with detachable batteries will have slight sparks between leads. We do not notice them, but you put the phone in with enough gasoline vapors, and bad things will happen. Vapors are the dangerous thing in all this.
Add into that ICE cars have far more fuel, and far more explosive fuel, and you have a recipe for disaster. And do not even get me started on how much fuel is in a gas station. A flood can release that fuel over an entire town; gasoline does float on water.
And no one seems to care. We have accepted that danger, so we are no longer trying to prevent it. ICE car designers are still trying to improve safety.
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Salty, you're a fool! Nothing new but you never seem to get any better. I told you the reason why but you just can't stop with the bullshit.
Fact or fiction: Can phone use at a gas station cause a fire?
Maybe you've heard that you shouldn't use a cell phone while refueling your vehicle because it could start a fire. Good advice, or is it just an Internet-fueled rumor?
Well, according to Snopes.com, warnings about the dangers of using cell phones in the presence of gasoline fumes began circulating on the Internet in 1999. The original warning referenced an incident in Indonesia in which a driver was supposedly burned and his car was badly damaged as a result of an explosion. A later rumor involved a man in Australia. However, no reports on these or similar accidents ever surfaced in the news media.
In fact, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) states there is no evidence that these reports are true. While it may be “theoretically possible for a spark from a cell phone battery to ignite gas vapor,” the FCC concludes the potential threat is remote.
If cell phones aren't the problem, what could cause a fire at the gas pump?
According to the Petroleum Equipment Institute (PEI), static electricity discharge is a major culprit. PEI goes on to recommend three simple rules for safe refueling:
Turn off your engine.
Don't smoke.
Never re-enter your vehicle while refueling.
While your cell phone may not actually be the cause of a fire at the gas pump, experts all agree consumers should take the appropriate precautions -- follow these three rules and those posted by the gas stations to reduce risks.
So why do you see those "Turn off all cell phones" stickers at the pump?
Gas pumps around the world bear stickers cautioning motorists to turn off their phones while refueling. Why is that? In 1999 the city of Cicero, Illinois passed the first law in the U.S. banning the use of cellular phones at gas stations. Today all major oil companies have followed suit and, as a preventive measure, ban cell phone use at gas pumps.
https://www.verizon.com/about/news/...ell-phone-at-the-gas-station-can-cause-a-fire
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Joe Capitalist
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Car companies don't agree with your opinion.
The bulk of the car, bus and light-truck market looks set to adopt [battery electric technology], which are a cheaper solution than fuel cells.
Volkswagen, meanwhile, made a statement comparing the energy efficiency of the technologies. “The conclusion is clear” said the company. “In the case of the passenger car, everything speaks in favour of the battery and practically nothing speaks in favour of hydrogen.”
Do yourself a favor. Check out this link where I googled "Why hydrogen cars won't work".
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=why+hydrogen+cars+won%27t+work&t=ipad&ia=web
Click on it and educate yourself and maybe you won't say such inane things
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Joe Capitalist
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Well, you should've shorted Tesla stock like I told you and you'd have more money.
Your post supported my argument, not yours, you brainless bozo.
Read these articles and educate yourself about why hydrogen will never work as a car fuel and maybe you won't make such inane statements:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=why+hydrogen+cars+won%27t+work&t=ipad&ia=web
Joe Capitalist
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Here's what I found in your articles. Did you even read them? They support my argument, not yours you brainless bozo:
The interesting thing is that Volkswagen CEO Herbert Diess hasy already declared that he does not believe fuel cell technology is sustainable. A tweet sent to important lawmakers last year, in particular, made one sit up and take notice: “The hydrogen automobile has been shown to be ineffective as a climate solution. In the transportation sector, electrification has triumphed. Debates that aren’t true are a waste of time. Please pay attention to science!” Herbert Diess.
And your third link was the same as your first, you brainless bozo.
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How are the limited ranged EVs charging with wide spread grid damage?
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Did you read the next paragraphs?
In actuality, the VW boardroom appears to be aware of the situation: according to BusinessInsider, the corporation has filed a patent application for a particular fuel cell with the Saxon business Kraftwerk Tubes GmbH. Volkswagen, without a doubt, is leaving this option open and pursuing hydrogen technology in defiance of the public “fog candles.”
Volkswagen isn’t the only vehicle firm to experiment with hydrogen as a fuel: Mercedes, BMW, and Asian automakers Toyota and Hyundai have all done so and created models that are ready for mass production. However, these automobiles have been far more expensive to purchase in the past. There is a significant difference in the technology presently being used by VW.
“The fundamental difference between our fuel cells and those from Hyundai and Toyota is that we use a ceramic membrane instead of the standard plastic membrane,” says power plant head Sascha Kühn. We are the only company that makes this technology’s ceramic membrane in such a way that the fuel cell can start up rapidly.” This, according to the managing director, is a significant difference. The benefits of this fuel cell over the “polymer” fuel cell are, on the one hand, cheaper production costs and the absence of platinum.
“It always works like this: we supply the fundamental technology, then develop it further along with the manufacturer’s experts and design the vehicle,” says founder Kühn of the cooperation with the automobile giant.
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Salty has gone very quiet!