Evangelicals: You Need to Stop Believing In Stupid Things

What the fuck are you talking about? This is so delusional. Taking certain guns off-market or even implementing a buyback program is none of that. Your propaganda riddled mind on the subject makes you worthless on the topic. You conservatives in these faux overdramatizations of reality are really sad. It shows you aren't listening to anyone but the NRA or other such sources.
The whole idea of "gun control" is delusional. There's never been a gun control law that has been demonstrated to have made things better. Gun control is aimed at the wrong end of the problem. Guns aren't the problem. People are. You can impose all of the gun control that you can think of and things will only get worse, because you're ignoring the real problem.

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What the fuck are you talking about? This is so delusional. Taking certain guns off-market or even implementing a buyback program is none of that. Your propaganda riddled mind on the subject makes you worthless on the topic. You conservatives in these faux overdramatizations of reality are really sad. It shows you aren't listening to anyone but the NRA or other such sources.

What are you talking about? You think for a moment I'd sell any of my military issued firearms (or ANY of my semi-auto firearms) to a "buyback" program? That's funny!
Propaganda riddled mind? Worthless on the topic? When did you become an expert on firearms and the 2nd. Amendment? You think you're more knowledgeable of firearms than me?
No, I'm not listening to assholes like you, I never will because you're an incompetent fool who knows nothing of the NRA or it's membership.
Stick to your food topics fatboy, the topic of firearms is way above you.
 
Indeed. "In God We Trust" is a violation of the 1st Amendment.

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It's only a violation to those Knights of Columbus one nation under God crusade interpretation of Catholic Church "serve the Pope or die" "man is God" Islamophobia pedophilia jihad business.
 
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Awesome, thanks. I am definitely interested in the ancient mythology; Mr. Owl not so much. I'll check out the Williams book for him.

Is the Welsh language akin in any way to the Gaelic spoken elsewhere in GB?
They come from an original Indo-European Celtic, most of which was replaced by Latin on the Continent, but divided originally in pronunciation , and are known as P and Q Celtic - 'son', for instance, is MAP/B in our language, MAC in Irish. Irish remained an inflected language like Latin, we dropped the case endings at the same time as did the variants of Latin, French and so on. British Celtic broke up into three surviving languages, Breton, Cornish and Cymraeg/'Welsh', while Irish turned into Irish, Gaelic and Manx. They're not mutually intelligible nowadays, though you can sometimes work out the meaning of Irish words .
 
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The whole idea of "gun control" is delusional. There's never been a gun control law that has been demonstrated to have made things better. Gun control is aimed at the wrong end of the problem. Guns aren't the problem. People are. You can impose all of the gun control that you can think of and things will only get worse, because you're ignoring the real problem.

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That's not true in the least. For example, there are reasons we don't have old mobster movie-style shootings. It's the government's responsibility on the safety of things sold from meat to fireworks. These assault weapons never should have been allowed on the market. The ban during the Clinton years saved us from all these mass shootings. Back then when Columbine happened it was such an unheard-of thing right up there with the likes of the Oklahoma City bombing. I miss those days. After 9/11 this whole country started going downhill. I don't even recognize the country anymore.
 
That's not true in the least. For example, there are reasons we don't have old mobster movie-style shootings. It's the government's responsibility on the safety of things sold from meat to fireworks. These assault weapons never should have been allowed on the market. The ban during the Clinton years saved us from all these mass shootings. Back then when Columbine happened it was such an unheard-of thing right up there with the likes of the Oklahoma City bombing. I miss those days. After 9/11 this whole country started going downhill. I don't even recognize the country anymore.

Two things: no Christian could be in favour of chucking the means to kill people around like confetti - that's obvious. The other is that guns are like drugs - using them makes no sense, but some people make money out of it. People who are pretending to be Christians are also pretending to be 'free' because of the bang-bangs. These things, I suppose, happen when a system is going down the drain. Pity.
 
They come from an original Indo-European Celtic, most of which was replaced by Latin on the Continent, but divided originally in pronunciation , and are known as P and Q Celtic - 'son', for instance, is MAP/B in our language, MAC in Irish. Irish remained an inflected language like Latin, we dropped the case endings at the same time as did the variants of Latin, French and so on. British Celtic broke up into three surviving languages, Breton, Cornish and Cymraeg/'Welsh', while Irish turned into Irish, Gaelic and Manx. They're not mutually intelligible nowadays, though you can sometimes work out the meaning of Irish words .

Fascinating -- thanks. I love languages and etymology.

The stories of Gaelic-speaking children being forced to learn English in school and punished for using their native language reminds me very much of the same thing here. Only here the victims were our native children, who were forcibly (in most cases) removed from their families and sent to residential schools to become "white." Was this also an issue in Wales?
 
What are you talking about? You think for a moment I'd sell any of my military issued firearms (or ANY of my semi-auto firearms) to a "buyback" program? That's funny!
Propaganda riddled mind? Worthless on the topic? When did you become an expert on firearms and the 2nd. Amendment? You think you're more knowledgeable of firearms than me?
No, I'm not listening to assholes like you, I never will because you're an incompetent fool who knows nothing of the NRA or it's membership.
Stick to your food topics fatboy, the topic of firearms is way above you.

the NRA is bleeding out


we will finish it off once they are tried for their crimes


You don't get to decide who votes on what


so go fuck a key hole
 
Fascinating -- thanks. I love languages and etymology.

The stories of Gaelic-speaking children being forced to learn English in school and punished for using their native language reminds me very much of the same thing here. Only here the victims were our native children, who were forcibly (in most cases) removed from their families and sent to residential schools to become "white." Was this also an issue in Wales?

And here. The 'Welsh Not' was something you had to hold if you were caught speaking your own language in your own school. If you heard anyone else doing so, you could force it on them, and the one holding it at the end of the afternoon was caned. Many people allege it happened to them, but it is really well back beyond human memory now: after a huge battle to get the language made official everyone learns it in school, and there is more demand for schools using no other than can easily be met, 'Welsh' schools being the better ones. Our local 'Welsh' comprehensive school is often called the 'Rhondda Grammar School' because it out-performs the others, as if they were the old sec-mods. Our Plaid Cymru leader of the time, Gwynfor Evans, had to begin a fast unto death to compel Mrs Thatcher to keep the Tory promise of a TV service in the language, and the Lady was for a very quick turning! Happy days! From the day that Liverpool drowned the village of Treweryn against the vote of all our MPs we've been winning all along the line. Cofiwch Dryweryn!"

Somewhere along the way, I suppose, we ought to connect this subject with the original, pointing out, for instance, that we became Christian before Popery got into full gear and ( a couple of hundred years later) pretended the east of Britain had gone pagan and brought it under control. St Patrick, it might be pointed out, was one of us! :)
 
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And here. The 'Welsh Not' was something you had to hold if you were caught speaking your own language in your own school. If you heard anyone else doing so, you could force it on them, and the one holding it at the end of the afternoon was caned. Many people allege it happened to them, but it is really well back beyond human memory now: after a huge battle to get the language made official everyone learns it in school, and there is more demand for schools using no other than can easily be met, 'Welsh' schools being the better ones. Our local 'Welsh' comprehensive school is often called the 'Rhondda Grammar School' because it out-performs the others, as if they were the old sec-mods. Our Plaid Cymru leader of the time, Gwynfor Evans, had to begin a fast unto death to compel Mrs Thatcher to keep the Tory promise of a TV service in the language, and the Lady was for a very quick turning! Happy days! From the day that Liverpool drowned the village of Treweryn against the vote of all our MPs we've been winning all along the line. Cofiwch Dryweryn!"

Somewhere along the way, I suppose, we ought to connect this subject with the original, pointing out, for instance, that we became Christian before Popery got into full gear and ( a couple of hundred years later) pretended the east of Britain had gone pagan and brought it under control. St Patrick, it might be pointed out, was one of us! :)

So despite the efforts to stamp it out, the Welsh language still exists? You had enough first speakers to keep it alive? That's one of the issues here with indigenous languages; there are so few first speakers left. Nevertheless across the U.S. native language revitalization programs are flourishing. My university just got a very large grant from one of the local indigenous nations to create (eventually) a masters program in Anishinaabemowin (Ojibwe). I'm very excited about this; I've taken all the language courses offered and am at kind of a standstill.

Human language diversity is beautiful; entire cultures are wrapped up in the words. Ojibwe, for example, treats almost all nouns as possessing personhood. In English nouns are gender-neutral. If I see a bird flying away in English I would say "It flew away." In Nish (Ojibwe), we say "Gii-animise" -- he/she flew away. Everything possesses spirit and is animate, whereas in English objects are just inanimate things.

Spoken Welsh is beautiful.


Can you understand what he is saying?
 
So despite the efforts to stamp it out, the Welsh language still exists? You had enough first speakers to keep it alive? That's one of the issues here with indigenous languages; there are so few first speakers left. Nevertheless across the U.S. native language revitalization programs are flourishing. My university just got a very large grant from one of the local indigenous nations to create (eventually) a masters program in Anishinaabemowin (Ojibwe). I'm very excited about this; I've taken all the language courses offered and am at kind of a standstill.

Human language diversity is beautiful; entire cultures are wrapped up in the words. Ojibwe, for example, treats almost all nouns as possessing personhood. In English nouns are gender-neutral. If I see a bird flying away in English I would say "It flew away." In Nish (Ojibwe), we say "Gii-animise" -- he/she flew away. Everything possesses spirit and is animate, whereas in English objects are just inanimate things.

Spoken Welsh is beautiful.


Can you understand what he is saying?

Aye, I remember that! Way back when, my parents didn't teach me, but they spoke the language when they didn't want me to understand, which was a great incentive to learn - and my cousins down in Cardiganshire didn't speak any English, which helped. It was a pretty monoglot society down there then - we used to go and see some relatives, and in one farm was an uncle who was quite an admired poet. He and his wife were very worthy Methodists, and knew English as I know French - okay to read, but not hot on the spoken stuff, and particularly not swearing. My teenage cousin, who was quite fluent, would greet us with, 'oh - bloody 'ell, it's the bloody Penderyn family! Better come in, yew buggers!' while his parents smiled proudly at his command of this foreign tongue! My father, a parson, never gave the game away, fortunately, though he did pull faces!
 
Aye, I remember that! Way back when, my parents didn't teach me, but they spoke the language when they didn't want me to understand, which was a great incentive to learn - and my cousins down in Cardiganshire didn't speak any English, which helped. It was a pretty monoglot society down there then - we used to go and see some relatives, and in one farm was an uncle who was quite an admired poet. He and his wife were very worthy Methodists, and knew English as I know French - okay to read, but not hot on the spoken stuff, and particularly not swearing. My teenage cousin, who was quite fluent, would greet us with, 'oh - bloody 'ell, it's the bloody Penderyn family! Better come in, yew buggers!' while his parents smiled proudly at his command of this foreign tongue! My father, a parson, never gave the game away, fortunately, though he did pull faces!

Heheheheh... that's hilarious! My mom took French in h.s. for that same reason. Her mother was a French-speaking immigrant from Switzerland. When the fam got together they would gossip in French so that the kids couldn't understand (and tattletale!).

Your land is very beautiful. You just know that fairies, pixies, brownies, and magic live here:

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Hello CO,

That is a good example of what I have been trying to convey since Trump was elected. Focusing on every little thing about Trump has no real effect on the public. It often comes across as petty.

Agreed on the petty, but I do believe it has an effect, nonetheless.

One thing I have long noticed about bigots is that they seem to think that everyone secretly agrees.

Spot on.

Aren't you one of those who said they were hoping for a recession to get rid of Trump?

I am the only one I know of here who actually came out and stated so boldly in a dedicated thread. One the bad things about capitalism is this wild rollercoaster of boom and bust. Recessions come whether we want them to or not. We've had an extraordinarily long period without one, raising the prospects that one looms. And there are signs pointing to that. The debt, the inversion, the trade war. Strongly associated with administration policy. If these things have caused a recession it is only fitting that it occurs on the watch of the one who made bad choices. Let he who erred face the consequences. I have urged all to prepare your personal portfolios accordingly. I successfully did this in 2007, and feel it is time again right now. Time will tell. worst case, Trump gets removed and we still get the result of his foolishness after he is gone. Just like W.

Who do you want to be the Democrat's nominee?

My favorite has no chance. She calls upon the forces of love to overwhelm the scourge of hatred. Williamson.

I will add that I intend to vote for whomever the Dem candidate is if Trump is on the ticket. I would even hold my nose and vote for Biden if it comes down to that., even though my second choice is Warren.

We so seriously need ranked choice voting. It makes all the sense in the world and would end voting for the lessor of two evils.
 
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