Evolution controversy erupts

PostmodernProphet said:
obviously you still haven't answered either of those....
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Your second question makes no sense and contains factual errors. I have asked you to clarify it and you failed to do so.

I will answer your question after you answer mine. I asked mine first and you have yet to give a straight answer.
 
Professor Baxter said:
Can you stay in context? Do you think that the idea is that speciation occurs due to changes within a population or because one member suddenly gives birth to a new species?
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does a fire start with a spark?.......if there is no birth of a different creature, there is no change whatsoever.....if that different creature remains in the general population the change is dissapated......its when it is isolated that the change carries on......

I can give you a long list of them right after you actually answer my question.
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no you won't....you'll keep dodging no matter how many times I answer you.....it's the way you roll.....
 
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Professor Baxter said:
More strawman bullshit. I said it is strange that you defend parts of it while denying the accuracy of other significant parts of the account.
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lol.....significant?.......

here's one list of flood stories from around the world.....are the "significant" parts of the account similar?......or are you concerned with whether the ark was made of gopher wood?....
http://www.nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html
 
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Professor Baxter said:
Your second question makes no sense and contains factual errors. I have asked you to clarify it and you failed to do so.

I will answer your question after you answer mine. I asked mine first and you have yet to give a straight answer.
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you will never answer me, because there is no answer except "none".....just admit you've lost the argument and go back to hiding.....
 
why don't we find pandas on five different continents?.......why do we have Bengal tigers instead of Multi-Regional tigers......why don't we have llamas from Australia and kangaroos from Peru?.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
does a fire start with a spark?.......if there is no birth of a different creature, there is no change whatsoever.....if that different creature remains in the general population the change is dissapated......its when it is isolated that the change carries on......



no you won't....you'll keep dodging no matter how many times I answer you.....it's the way you roll.....
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Save the platitudes.

Your synopsis is wrong and implausible. If an individual new and different creature appears and is isolated genetically then who does it mate with?

That's not how it happens and I told you this several threads ago. You insist on remaining ignorant so you can cast aspersions about shit happening at the theory of evolution without having the slightest clue what the theory actually suggests. Are you just pretending to be stupid or are you really this ignorant?

What happens is a group becomes genetically isolated from the entire population of the species and small changes, from parent to child, build up within this subpopulation (and within the the main population) until the subpopulation and main population become distinct species.

Again, changes can build up within the entire population until it becomes significantly different from arcahaic forms. That is possibly what happened within homo erectus to bring forth homo sapiens in multiple regions. No matter replacement or multiregional, the speciation occurs within a GROUP.

As for your stupid question.... cats, dogs, chickens, cattle, sheep, horses, pigs, etc., have evolved significantly in multiple regions of world.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
lol.....significant?.......

here's one list of flood stories from around the world.....are the "significant" parts of the account similar?......or are you concerned with whether the ark was made of gopher wood?....
http://www.nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html
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The world wide nature of the event is definitely a significant part of the biblical flood story. Only someone ignorant of the bible or who is without integrity would claim otherwise and you qualify on both.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
you will never answer me, because there is no answer except "none".....just admit you've lost the argument and go back to hiding.....
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Lol... your question was a softball. I just wanted you to demonstrate your ignorance on evolutionary theory more clearly instead of hiding behind vague bullshit as you ALWAYS do.
 
Professor Baxter said:
Save the platitudes.

Your synopsis is wrong and implausible. If an individual new and different creature appears and is isolated genetically then who does it mate with?
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oh come on, you know that isn't what I mean.....

What happens is a group becomes genetically isolated from the entire population of the species and small changes, from parent to child, build up within this subpopulation (and within the the main population) until the subpopulation and main population become distinct species.
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well what do you know, you DID know what I was talking about after all....

Again, changes can build up within the entire population until it becomes significantly different from arcahaic forms. That is possibly what happened within homo erectus to bring forth homo sapiens in multiple regions.
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then you ought to be able to give me an example....

As for your stupid question.... cats, dogs, chickens, cattle, sheep, horses, pigs, etc., have evolved significantly in multiple regions of world.
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excellent....we are beginning to find common ground....hybridization......but you don't believe in an Intelligent Hybridizer.......can you give me an example of it occurring as a result of "shit happening"?.........
 
Professor Baxter said:
The world wide nature of the event is definitely a significant part of the biblical flood story. Only someone ignorant of the bible or who is without integrity would claim otherwise and you qualify on both.
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it totally effected the world of both the survivors and those who didn't.......if a flood happens and there's no one to hear it, does it make a sound?......
 
Professor Baxter said:
Lol... your question was a softball. I just wanted you to demonstrate your ignorance on evolutionary theory more clearly instead of hiding behind vague bullshit as you ALWAYS do.
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sweet....then you should have no problem answering it.......try......domesticated animals are not a good example of random evolution.......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
oh come on, you know that isn't what I mean.....


well what do you know, you DID know what I was talking about after all....



then you ought to be able to give me an example....



excellent....we are beginning to find common ground....hybridization......but you don't believe in an Intelligent Hybridizer.......can you give me an example of it occurring as a result of "shit happening"?.........
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If that is what you meant then wtf is your problem understanding how evolution occurs within an entire population? There is no acceptable reason for your blockage other than your continued repetition of this ignorant idea that speciation is a singular event that happens to one individual. The changes are not unusual. It's not shit happening. It's a mundane and expexcted process.

I have given you several examples including humans.
 
Americans arguing about evolution, when it's plainly obvious that the god made earth in a few days, including all life upon the earth. Proving once again that the Flintstones cartoons are based on the fact that humans rode dinosaurs like we ride modern day horses.

Evil American demons, go ooouuuuuuuuttttttttt!
 
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