Fall of the Republican Party

[LV426]

My position is that there is a place for governmental powers at all levels and all changes should be at the lowest level possible

Why? That is incoherent.

Whenever a group of Americans band together for a town or county, they can best tax and appropriate money for projects such as a new fairground or an additional well and pump house.

Well, a well and pump house would be infrastructure, so I don't understand why it matters that the federal government doesn't build it?

Again, you're incoherent.

We aren't talking about fairgrounds, we are talking about public transportation...at least we were talking about public transportation before you decided to unilaterally change the subject because the debate was headed in a direction that wasn't going to be favorable for you.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Fucking Milquetoast Macaw is still here.
Is it time for my ignore list to fill up again?

 

[Into the Night]

Think about it, why do woman choose to have an abortion? Most likely because they either cannot afford to raise a child or don't want one in the first place. So they leave the hospital after giving birth without the child.

If abortion were to be eliminated it stands a reason that most of these kids end up getting dumped into the laps of the state to raise and care for until they are 18, all at state expense of course.

Granted some newborns will be adopted however each year the numbers are growing of children who remain in the care of the state/foster homes. Now, multiply that number of newborns given to the state to care for by a factor of 10 and see how the numbers grow dramatically. In ten years the costs would be astronomical and the taxpayers get to foot the entire bill.

It may be an evil take, but it's a realistic one.

This is called 'not taking responsibility for your actions'. It is selfish. It is murder.

 

[LV426]

Sometimes it benefits the towns or counties to make deals with adjoining or other towns/counties for mutual gain. Projects beyond their means or scope get bumped up for State decisions. Like counties and towns, State can banded together for mutual gain such as mass buying of textbooks, a point of political discourse.

So do kids in Texas learn a different kind of Algebra than kids in Massachusetts?

 

[evince]

Think about it, why do woman choose to have an abortion? Most likely because they either cannot afford to raise a child or don't want one in the first place. So they leave the hospital after giving birth without the child.

If abortion were to be eliminated it stands a reason that most of these kids end up getting dumped into the laps of the state to raise and care for until they are 18, all at state expense of course.

Granted some newborns will be adopted however each year the numbers are growing of children who remain in the care of the state/foster homes. Now, multiply that number of newborns given to the state to care for by a factor of 10 and see how the numbers grow dramatically. In ten years the costs would be astronomical and the taxpayers get to foot the entire bill.

It may be an evil take, but it's a realistic one.

History clearly shows what happens when abortion is illegal



Wealthy people take a trip to where it is legal


Poor and middle people get illegal dangerous criminals ones



Making abortion illegal saves no one


It just gets humans dead

 

[LV426]

Marketplace rules apply to almost everything including text books. The biggest buyer has the biggest sway on what they like in textbooks. Texas was the biggest buyer and liberals revolted.

OK, but why should those rules apply to public services? Do kids in Michigan learn a different alphabet than kids in Oklahoma?

This is precisely what I mean when I say you're incoherent.

 

[evince]

So do kids in Texas learn a different kind of Algebra than kids in Massachusetts?

They do get an altered history of slavery and segregation

 

[NiftyNiblick]

So do kids in Texas learn a different kind of Algebra than kids in Massachusetts?

They sure as fuck learn a different kind of English, I'll tell you that.

 

[LV426]

There is a substantial level of hypocrisy in your grand plan, Oom.

You want to preserve the unified republic.
You want the entire republic to adopt your states' rights philosophy.
Liberal states have no interest in that, but you would impose it on them while pretending to be an advocate for freedom.

Partition is the way to make the greater number of people happy.
If you truly valued freedom, you'd embrace the concept.
But you don't. You embrace your 9th grade civics class level of political sophistication.

Dutch should know that you're not allowed to have a position that East Coast It Notes has already mocked:

 

[evince]

This is called 'not taking responsibility for your actions'. It is selfish. It is murder.

None of your fucking business


How about we solve this problem by making all men sterile until they have a partner who agrees to have a child



Not very fair huh


Don’t ask women to answer to you on their medical conditions

 

[Into the Night]

I was in Washington in like a ..20 foot boat ..pretty deep ..with a motor. Only 2 seats. I pretty much got seasick that day. This was not fresh water.

The sides of the boat were around 4 feet or more. It was in a boathouse and they lowered it down by something like dual steel cables and off we went! To Pukola!
than a boat that size should have.
It was a damn sturdy boat. Pretty sure the motor was 2-stroke. Much smaller than a boat that size should have.
The boats they rent here do not have sides that high. Ever.
All I remember is going out, and the engine worked, and the pitch and the yaw and I felt green.

Some kind of bay, maybe? The waves were pretty choppy.

Oh, I can regale stories about beating around the bay here. Every wave is a slap on your back in the bay beater.
Or is that bayliner? Hmm...Going for miles with a slap on your back every other wave.
That boat had a serious motor. And you felt it when things were choppy.

Sounds like Elliot bay. Most rental houses of that sort operate near there.
There are some in Everett, which has Possession Sound, sort of a bay.

Puget Sound can get a bit rough.

 

[LV426]

None of your fucking business
How about we solve this problem by making all men sterile until they have a partner who agrees to have a child
Not very fair huh
Don’t ask women to answer to you on their medical conditions

If he wants to force women to birth rape babies in order to preserve life, then he must absolutely support the State tearing organs from his body for people who need the transplants to survive.

 

[evince]

No, it's not. My position is that there is a place for governmental powers at all levels and all changes should be at the lowest level possible. Whenever a group of Americans band together for a town or county, they can best tax and appropriate money for projects such as a new fairground or an additional well and pump house. Sometimes it benefits the towns or counties to make deals with adjoining or other towns/counties for mutual gain. Projects beyond their means or scope get bumped up for State decisions. Like counties and towns, State can banded together for mutual gain such as mass buying of textbooks, a point of political discourse.

Marketplace rules apply to almost everything including text books. The biggest buyer has the biggest sway on what they like in textbooks. Texas was the biggest buyer and liberals revolted.

States rights over Federal domination. Buy your own textbooks, raise your own taxes. Leave my state alone. TIA

https://nybooks.com/articles/2012/06/21/how-texas-inflicts-bad-textbooks-on-us/
How Texas Inflicts Bad Textbooks on Us
Gail Collins June 21, 2012 issue
Texas originally acquired its power over the nation’s textbook supply because it paid 100 percent of the cost of all public school textbooks, as long as the books in question came from a very short list of board-approved options. The selection process “was grueling and tension-filled,” said Julie McGee, who worked at high levels in several publishing houses before her retirement. “If you didn’t get listed by the state, you got nothing.” On the other side of the coin, David Anderson, who once sold textbooks in the state, said that if a book made the list, even a fairly mediocre salesperson could count on doing pretty well. The books on the Texas list were likely to be mass-produced by the publisher in anticipation of those sales, so other states liked to buy them and take advantage of the economies of scale.

“What happens in Texas doesn’t stay in Texas when it comes to textbooks,” said Dan Quinn, who worked as an editor of social studies textbooks before joining the Texas Freedom Network, which was founded by Governor Ann Richards’s daughter, Cecile, to counter the religious right.

And the majority of Americans disagree with that limited gov crap


It’s a sham to benefit corporations


So the republicans have to cheat in elections to push it on America


Us Americans are done with that dishonest anti democracy crap

 

[PostmodernProphet]

WTF are you talking about?

given that the topic of that moment was abortion, I will give you two guesses.......

 

[evince]

Banning ANY of them is unconstitutional. Banning ANY accessory for a weapon is unconstitutional. Yes, many Democrats want to ban them all.

Lying about it, as you are doing, is as dishonest as hell.

The NRA is not run by the Republican party.

Please stop your dishonesty.
...who am I kidding? You can't.

The laws don’t agree with you


You are not the arbiter of what is legal

 

[evince]

The NRA was turned into a corrupt sack of shit under Republican influence


75% of Americans don’t want all guns banned


You are the liar


Fox doesn’t get to decide what the majority of Americans believe to further their biased trash heap of a station



I don’t want all guns banned


I never will want all guns banned



You assholes are fighting an enemy you made up in your own broken head


Fucking idiot

 

[evince]

Stop lying about what people tell you they believe


It’s just a tactic to avoid what’s being discussed


A lazy assed fool your self trick to avoid facts you can’t counter

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Think about it, why do woman choose to have an abortion? Most likely because they either cannot afford to raise a child or don't want one in the first place. So they leave the hospital after giving birth without the child.

If abortion were to be eliminated it stands a reason that most of these kids end up getting dumped into the laps of the state to raise and care for until they are 18, all at state expense of course.

Granted some newborns will be adopted however each year the numbers are growing of children who remain in the care of the state/foster homes. Now, multiply that number of newborns given to the state to care for by a factor of 10 and see how the numbers grow dramatically. In ten years the costs would be astronomical and the taxpayers get to foot the entire bill.

It may be an evil take, but it's a realistic one.

There's that cost and also to the individual, specifically the one the American Taliban love to blame the most: the woman. She get's saddled and trapped with a kid at 16 or 20 and her life stops. American Talibans call it a win. They are assholes.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

And the majority of Americans disagree with that limited gov crap...

Agreed. Then entire world saw an excellent example of it on 1/6.

Supporting a dictatorship is not supporting State's Rights. Those assholes are not only treasonous, but anti-State's Rights....just like you.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

This is called 'not taking responsibility for your actions'. It is selfish. It is murder.

None of your fucking business...

Agreed 100%. It's another example of how both the Democrats and Republicans have become alike in poking into one's life.