ZenMode
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Sure, isolation works, (China) but wasn't necessary except for maybe some of the most dense and populous cities. The overall damage done by shutting down the economy, schools, etc was far worse than COVID.
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I guess that depends on one’s perspective. When a loved one dies from COVID, that you couldn’t go to your favorite bar pales in comparison.
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Is that after the debate when Biden claimed he had a Cold and was suffering from Jet Lag?
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Well, if your loved ones are old and have comorbidities then they are the ones that needed to isolate.
Except that wasn’t always the case, was it? And avoids the remark about perspective.
Nor does it answer any question about where one draws the line at public isolation.
Movie theaters?
Bars?
Concerts?
Indoor sporting events?
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Wednesday, I went to the Maryland VA. When I got home, I had a runny nose the first day, felt crappy for 2 more days, and now I'm back to normal. So I might have picked up a Summer cold while I was there, or .... the new vid!!!
My friend texted me on Thurs that she was sick this week and had to cancel this weekend's party.
Then I see this thread. Hmmmm. Coincidence?
My friend texted me on Thurs that she was sick this week and had to cancel this weekend's party.
Then I see this thread. Hmmmm. Coincidence?
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Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Except it was always the case.
There was no need to order parents to mask up 4 year olds, and do 6 feet socialist distancing.
Or sterilize your mail
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No, it was not always the case, so stop lying about that. Healthy people died.Except it was always the case.
There was no need to order parents to mask up 4 year olds, and do 6 feet socialist distancing.
Or sterilize your mail
I caught COVID from my asymptomatic grandkids. They caught it at school.
Now, you avoided the question about where to draw the line on public exposure.
Movie theaters?
Bars and restaurants?
Indoor sports events?
Concerts?
And what was the major problem with 6 foot distancing? Were you terribly inconvenienced? Did you need to be closer to someone in line?
You sterilized your mail? LOL
ZenMode
Well-known member
People die. Certain demographics take extra precautions to avoid dying. For example, the elderly take precautions for the seasonal flu because the flu tends to kill old people. People with peanut allergies have to be very aware of where/what they eat.
The mortality rate of Covid has been consistently at 1%. I don't believe the economic impact of shutting entire states down and shutting down schools is justified when 99% of people survive.
He took a test and it was negative. I remember when it was Trump who actually showed up at the last debate with COVID, what as asshat move.
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
No, It was rare for healthy people to die from the Vid. Most people were asymptomatic.
No, ... churches, bars, restaurants, gyms, hair stylists, etc.. And it was all based on authoritarian LIES.
No "line". Personal choice, freedom, ... not democrat socialist authoritarianism.
volsrock1
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People die. Yep. That’s not the question. Do people needlessly die because of poor public health policy?
Mortality rate isn’t the only measure of the disease’s damage. The health system was overloaded to the point that other health issues came second. So, people died, not from COVID, but because they couldn’t obtain help
Long term effects of COVID are still being seen.
Nobody seems to want to answer the question as to where to draw the line on isolation.
Movie theaters?
Indoor sports events?
Gymnasiums?
Restaurants and bars?
Concerts?
People die. Yep. That’s not the question. Do people needlessly die because of poor public health policy?
Mortality rate isn’t the only measure of the disease’s damage. The health system was overloaded to the point that other health issues came second. So, people died, not from COVID, but because they couldn’t obtain help
Long term effects of COVID are still being seen.
Nobody seems to want to answer the question as to where to draw the line on isolation.
Movie theaters?
Indoor sports events?
Gymnasiums?
Restaurants and bars?
Concerts?
Millions died anyway, despite the isolation. There were no lies, asswipe, no matter how many times to repeat that one.
But, at least you’re on record supporting known super-spreader venues. And the asymptomatic ones were the most dangerous ones, as they DIDN’T isolate.
Spare us all the trite socialist authoritarian bullshit, pal. It merely reflects your intellectual shallowness.
ZenMode
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I agree, that's why I said lockdowns were unnecessary for 99% of the country. Cities like NY may have been fully justified in locking down or implementing very strict regulations for distancing, occupancy, etc. Some states never locked down, required masks, etc and were fine.
Yep and like the flu, everyone will eventually get it.
There isn't one answer. In a farming town in Idaho, why would you restrict anything when there were never any outbreaks? The problem is government leadership, at all levels, panicked and, rather than being selective with restrictions, took the easy way out.
When was that taken and when did Biden claim he had COVID?
Dutch Uncle
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MAGAts can't do math. TBH, I'm fine with them not getting going to doctors, getting vaccinations and not taking precautions. If a person has COVID, I recommend they give MAGAts what they want; meet and shake hands with as many MAGAts as possible. The older the better.
Dutch Uncle
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We're a litigious society. States have a responsibility to care for their citizens. In the face of the unknown, it's better to be safe than sorry, which is what they did. I think it saved lives.
FWIW, I always update my vaccinations. Due to cancer treatments, I couldn't get the latest COVID vax (my 8th) until last week. I also updated my Hep B shot with the first of two. My pneumonia, shingles, RSV, TDAP and other shots are uptodate.
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June 21, 2022
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Monday morning quarterbacking is easy. When a new and deadly disease strikes, a known communicable one, what do you propose public health officials do?
Farming towns in Idaho didn’t have huge outbreaks for the simple reason is that they WERE isolated. See how that works? They still had outbreaks, but 1% of 100 or 1000 cases isn’t newsworthy. I don’t have stats in front of me, but rural people died in higher rates simply for the lack of vaccination and health care.
ZenMode
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Would you have supported the kind of lockdowns that China had in the name of being safe rather than sorry?We're a litigious society. States have a responsibility to care for their citizens. In the face of the unknown, it's better to be safe than sorry, which is what they did. I think it saved lives.
FWIW, I always update my vaccinations. Due to cancer treatments, I couldn't get the latest COVID vax (my 8th) until last week. I also updated my Hep B shot with the first of two. My pneumonia, shingles, RSV, TDAP and other shots are uptodate.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
June 21, 2022
30 July 2021Coronavirus Pandemic: See The Latest Impacts Across The US And The World
Follow the latest data on COVID-19 in the US and globally.
Covid-19: Biden tells states to offer $100 vaccine incentive as cases rise
The US president also announced that all federal workers must be vaccinated or subjected to testing.