Florida *MANDATORY* evacuation orders

[volsrock1]

Wrong again, vols.

Again, the question is "Why hasn't DeSantis gotten rid of the mandatory evacuation law?"

Florida lifts all COVID-19 restrictions

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has suspended fines for not wearing masks and lifted COVID-19 restrictions on all businesses in the state.

abcnews.go.com

Florida residents will no longer be fined for not wearing face masks and COVID-19 restrictions on all businesses in the state, including restaurants and bars, have been lifted in an effort to help the state's economy, according to Gov. Ron DeSantis.

"Every business has the right to operate," DeSantis said at news conference Friday. "Some of the locals can do reasonable regulations. But you can't just say no."

Eleven states did not impose mandates at any point.

Florida

• Florida recommends but has not required face coverings for the general public.

State by State Face Mask Mandates

Over the course of the pandemic, 39 states, Puerto Rico, and the District of Columbia had orders broadly requiring people to wear masks in public. […]

leadingage.org

Governor DeSantis Issues an Executive Order Ensuring Parents’ Freedom to Choose​

On July 30, 2021, in News Releases, by Staff

Governor DeSantis Issues an Executive Order Ensuring Parents’ Freedom to Choose

www.flgov.com

Florida governor blocks school mask mandates, says parents can choose​

July 30 (Reuters) - Florida Governor Ron DeSantis issued an executive order on Friday blocking mask mandates in the state's schools, saying parents had the right to decide if their children would wear face coverings.

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www.reuters.com

Jul 23, 2020,01:10pm EDT
With Florida primed to reach 400,000 confirmed cases of the coronavirus, almost one-third of counties in Florida have introduced mandatory face mask policies, despite the fact the Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis refuses to implement a statewide mandate.

Despite DeSantis, Nearly One-Third Of Florida Counties Require Masks

DeSantis has said he has no plans to impose a mask mandate but won’t interfere with local regulations.

www.forbes.com

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis refuses to implement a statewide mandate.

what part of that do u not get?

 

[Lionfish]

What are your thoughts on the mandatory evacuation orders forcing people out of their homes under penalty of law, Hater? Or will you run like most of your fellow MAGAts?

https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/living/article293655099.html

In Florida, statute 252.50 says anyone who fails to obey an emergency order could be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree.

Florida Misdemeanor Crimes by Class and Sentences

In Florida, crimes are divided into misdemeanors and felonies. Learn about the classification of the crimes, and the potential penalties.

www.criminaldefenselawyer.com

Misdemeanors of the second degree are punishable by a jail term of up to 60 days and a fine up to $500. Examples of second-degree misdemeanors include assault, prostitution, petit theft (less than $100), and disorderly intoxication.

Florida law also imposes enhanced penalties for repeat misdemeanor offenders, as well as misdemeanor crimes committed against vulnerable victims or motivated by prejudice or bias.

Mr. Tiny Penis, your OP has been proven to be a joke. Time to give it up.

 

[Damocles]

Agreed.

What is your opinion of mandatory evacuation orders, Damo?

I haven't thought that deeply on that subject, but I know I'd hate to leave just because the gub'mint told me to. I think folks who do not follow the order are on their own, but there should be no forced evacuation even if you have a mandatory evacuation order, they just would have to know that nobody was coming to save the day if they stay.

 

[volsrock1]

Wrong again, vols.

Again, the question is "Why hasn't DeSantis gotten rid of the mandatory evacuation law?"

Florida lifts all COVID-19 restrictions

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has suspended fines for not wearing masks and lifted COVID-19 restrictions on all businesses in the state.

abcnews.go.com

Florida residents will no longer be fined for not wearing face masks and COVID-19 restrictions on all businesses in the state, including restaurants and bars, have been lifted in an effort to help the state's economy, according to Gov. Ron DeSantis.

"Every business has the right to operate," DeSantis said at news conference Friday. "Some of the locals can do reasonable regulations. But you can't just say no."

VIDEO: Florida never had a statewide mask mandate and Governor Ron DeSantis has said that won't change.

Watch the NBC video they state the fact in the first 10 seconds of the news broadcast

Again there was NEVER a STATE mask mandate for him to get rid of

 

[Hawkeye10]

I haven't thought that deeply on that subject, but I know I'd hate to leave just because the gub'mint told me to. I think folks who do not follow the order are on their own, but there should be no forced evacuation even if you have a mandatory evacuation order, they just would have to know that nobody was coming to save the day if they stay.

Which would leave the collective with the dead bodies, and all the problems they cause.

Mandatory evacuations are justified.

 

[Damocles]

Which would leave the collective with the dead bodies, and all the problems they cause.

Mandatory evacuations are justified.

Did I say not to have them? Though I would always prefer dealing with the dead bodies of idiots to forced evacuation. Mandatory and forced are not the same word.

 

[Nordberg]

They are talking about 15 feet of water hitting. Ask again why evacuation is mandatory.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

No surprise, you couldn't come up with anything concerning mandatory evacuation orders from their homes. That's okay
for I won't dwell on your insincere attempt to gloss over your mistake.

No worries, Hater. Your bully tactics don't work when anyone with an average IQ and a HS diploma can read the links for themselves.

I've made a lot of mistakes in life. Is admitting to mistakes a problem for you, Hater? Insecurity?

Take heart! We all make mistakes. Just don't make the same mistake twice.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

What a "mandatory" evacuation order does is absolve the state of liability if you ignore it. They won't come an arrest you for ignoring it, nor will they do some other heinous act against you. Instead, if you choose not to evacuate, you're on your own and you can't blame the state for not warning you that something bad could happen.

Florida does suggest if you stay, you write your name on your arm in permanent maker so they'll know who you were when they find your corpse...

 

[Tbird19482]

I haven't thought that deeply on that subject, but I know I'd hate to leave just because the gub'mint told me to. I think folks who do not follow the order are on their own, but there should be no forced evacuation even if you have a mandatory evacuation order, they just would have to know that nobody was coming to save the day if they stay.

And IF something happens to the people that do stay and they have to have people go in to rescue them they should have to pay for what ever the cost to the taxpayer was.
They were warned to get out to a safe place but chose to stay then it is all on them, the taxpayer shouldn't have to pay for their stupidity we already have to pay a lot to help them already .

 

[T. A. Gardner]

And IF something happens to the people that do stay and they have to have people go in to rescue them they should have to pay for what ever the cost to the taxpayer was.
They were warned to get out to a safe place but chose to stay then it is all on them, the taxpayer shouldn't have to pay for their stupidity we already have to pay a lot to help them already .

In this case, I disagree to an extent. I think that payment should only be demanded where the rescuers specifically went in to rescue someone. Where they are in an area searching it, etc., and incidentally happen on a survivor, and offer their assistance, I don't see that as something the government should charge for.

 

[Tbird19482]

In this case, I disagree to an extent. I think that payment should only be demanded where the rescuers specifically went in to rescue someone. Where they are in an area searching it, etc., and incidentally happen on a survivor, and offer their assistance, I don't see that as something the government should charge for.

I agree. as I said if they had to go in and rescue them during the storm IF they can without putting their selves in harms way then they should pay the costs NOT the taxpayer.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I agree. as I said if they had to go in and rescue them during the storm IF they can without putting their selves in harms way then they should pay the costs NOT the taxpayer.

What I suggested is how Arizona handles these things. People regularly go hiking and such in like 115 degree weather with a single bottle of water and end up with heat exhaustion or worse and need rescuing. It's different if someone is doing all the right things but has like a medical emergency or something. Then the emergency services don't charge them.

So, if someone were to stay, and had say, a hurricane proof house (yes, there is such a thing) but had issues for some reason I can see not charging them since they were taking reasonable precautions and something unexpected came up. On the other hand, you live in a single-wide and the flood waters is up to the roof and your mobile home is suddenly mobile... That's on you.

 

[IBDaMann]

We've been told for 30 years that hurricane intensity would increase with global warming,

... and there is no global warming, only the religion Global Warming.

Hurricanes are the same kind of hurricanes they've always been.

and the ironic thing is it is the states where climate denial was the strongest

Who has ever denied that any State has a climate?

that will get the worst effects.

Too funny! I love how you mindless, scientifically illiterate warmizombies can never get any more specific than "the effects."

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Eleven states did not impose mandates at any point.

Florida

• Florida recommends but has not required face coverings for the general public.

State by State Face Mask Mandates

Over the course of the pandemic, 39 states, Puerto Rico, and the District of Columbia had orders broadly requiring people to wear masks in public. […]

leadingage.org

Governor DeSantis Issues an Executive Order Ensuring Parents’ Freedom to Choose​

On July 30, 2021, in News Releases, by Staff

Governor DeSantis Issues an Executive Order Ensuring Parents’ Freedom to Choose

www.flgov.com

Florida governor blocks school mask mandates, says parents can choose​

July 30 (Reuters) - Florida Governor Ron DeSantis issued an executive order on Friday blocking mask mandates in the state's schools, saying parents had the right to decide if their children would wear face coverings.

Loading…

www.reuters.com

Jul 23, 2020,01:10pm EDT
With Florida primed to reach 400,000 confirmed cases of the coronavirus, almost one-third of counties in Florida have introduced mandatory face mask policies, despite the fact the Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis refuses to implement a statewide mandate.

Despite DeSantis, Nearly One-Third Of Florida Counties Require Masks

DeSantis has said he has no plans to impose a mask mandate but won’t interfere with local regulations.

www.forbes.com

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis refuses to implement a statewide mandate.

what part of that do u not get?

I get it all, vols. What you aren't getting is the hypocrisy of DeSantis not mandating masks but mandating evacuations.

On a related note, two laws DeSantis signed last February could flip Florida blue on November 5th: anti-camping laws to drive out the homeless and strict voting laws which will make it difficult, if not impossible, for millions of Floridians to vote.

Florida’s bill banning public sleeping and camping: explained

Proponents say House Bill 1365 will keep streets safer, while advocates for people experiencing homelessness say it will further criminalize a vulnerable population.

www.wlrn.org

Gov. Ron DeSantis signaled his support for the state legislation at a press conference Monday in Miami Beach. Standing behind a podium that read “Don’t let Florida become San Francisco,” the governor grouped issues of homelessness, drug use, criminal activity, mental health, and sanitation.

The dos and don’ts of voting by mail in Florida in 2024

All registered Florida voters have the right to vote by mail, without providing a reason or proof that they’ll be out of town.

floricuanews.com

Here are some dont’s:

• Don’t forget to register to vote.
• Don’t request a vote-by-mail ballot after the established deadline.
• Don’t skip filling out the application form.
• Don’t forget to submit your application by mail, fax, email, or in person to your County Supervisor of Elections office, before the deadline, which is Aug. 8 for the August 20 primary election, and Oct. 24 for the general election on Nov. 5.
• Don’t assume a vote-by-mail ballot request is indefinite; it is valid for all elections until the end of the year following the next general election.
• Don’t use a damaged ballot; voters can request another one.
• Do not send a completed ballot that won’t reach the Supervisor of Elections’ office by 7:00 p.m. on Election Day, because it won’t be counted.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I haven't thought that deeply on that subject, but I know I'd hate to leave just because the gub'mint told me to. I think folks who do not follow the order are on their own, but there should be no forced evacuation even if you have a mandatory evacuation order, they just would have to know that nobody was coming to save the day if they stay.

Laws that aren't enforced should be removed from the books. Same for laws that are "feel good" but unenforceable. In both cases trust in government is eroded since they are making stupid and useless laws.

Agreed that people should never be forced from their homes. Government should inform them but not force them out. If they want to risk their lives and the lives of their families, that's their choice.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

IDutch

Awwww, that's sweet, Legina, but I'm both straight and married.

 

[Damocles]

And IF something happens to the people that do stay and they have to have people go in to rescue them they should have to pay for what ever the cost to the taxpayer was.
They were warned to get out to a safe place but chose to stay then it is all on them, the taxpayer shouldn't have to pay for their stupidity we already have to pay a lot to help them already .

Fair enough. Though I think that the warning should simply be that nobody is coming to save you, and then the government should stick to it. If anybody does go in to save them it should be private companies, and yeah, they would likely charge for the service.

 

[Damocles]

I get it all, vols. What you aren't getting is the hypocrisy of DeSantis not mandating masks but mandating evacuations.

On a related note, two laws DeSantis signed last February could flip Florida blue on November 5th: anti-camping laws to drive out the homeless and strict voting laws which will make it difficult, if not impossible, for millions of Floridians to vote.

Florida’s bill banning public sleeping and camping: explained

Proponents say House Bill 1365 will keep streets safer, while advocates for people experiencing homelessness say it will further criminalize a vulnerable population.

www.wlrn.org

Gov. Ron DeSantis signaled his support for the state legislation at a press conference Monday in Miami Beach. Standing behind a podium that read “Don’t let Florida become San Francisco,” the governor grouped issues of homelessness, drug use, criminal activity, mental health, and sanitation.

The dos and don’ts of voting by mail in Florida in 2024

All registered Florida voters have the right to vote by mail, without providing a reason or proof that they’ll be out of town.

floricuanews.com

Here are some dont’s:

• Don’t forget to register to vote.
• Don’t request a vote-by-mail ballot after the established deadline.
• Don’t skip filling out the application form.
• Don’t forget to submit your application by mail, fax, email, or in person to your County Supervisor of Elections office, before the deadline, which is Aug. 8 for the August 20 primary election, and Oct. 24 for the general election on Nov. 5.
• Don’t assume a vote-by-mail ballot request is indefinite; it is valid for all elections until the end of the year following the next general election.
• Don’t use a damaged ballot; voters can request another one.
• Do not send a completed ballot that won’t reach the Supervisor of Elections’ office by 7:00 p.m. on Election Day, because it won’t be counted.

If you are on this website regularly and haven't registered to vote I would assume you are one of the stupidest people on the planet.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

If you are on this website regularly and haven't registered to vote I would assume you are one of the stupidest people on the planet.

Agreed. The $64 question is "how many will actually vote and for whom".

More salient to the OP is, "Will Florida laws and Milton adversely impact Florida's Republican vote?"