Freedom of Speech: let's get real.

[Litmus]

"Free Speech" has nothing to do with access to somebody else's forum.

Free Speech means that you don't get arrested for what you say or write on your own forum.

If I purchased this website and decided to ban all non-Democratic Socialists,
which, of course, I would most likely do,
that would not be an infringement of free speech.

yes it would.

 

[ZenMode]

They have not come for me big yet but that last major time was when I tried to use facebook

The GOVERNMENT came after you? What did you post on Facebook that the government came after you for?

 

[ZenMode]

"Free Speech" has nothing to do with access to somebody else's forum.

Free Speech means that you don't get arrested for what you say or write on your own forum.

If I purchased this website and decided to ban all non-Democratic Socialists,
which, of course, I would most likely do,
that would not be an infringement of free speech

yes it would.

No it wouldn't.

The first amendment protects our speech from infringement by the government, not private entities.

You can give a cop the finger without consequence because of the first amendment. You can't give your boss the finger and claim free speech protection.

 

[ZenMode]

The best way to determine the sanity of a person online is to see how many posts/threads they have in the conspiracy forum. Jus' sayin'.

Good point. I've read it a couple of times and have been tempted to dispute some of the "crazy", but it is a forum dedicated to crazy.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I just read a post on "X" (formerly Twitter), that warned "white women" of what is to come with a multicultural society. It had a picture of the face of a panicked white woman being strong armed by a black hand over her mouth.

Then you have the plethora of Musk whining about being banned in various countries as a violation of "freedom of speech"

I've said it before and I'll say it again; you have freedom of speech, but that does not make you immune from the consequences of said speech.

The Neo-Nazi/White Supremacist rhetoric that Musk let's fly on his site is something that other countries around the world know all too well what can result of such. Countries like Germany or France or various South American, Asian, Nordic, African countries who had REAL bouts with fascism, Nazi-ism and authoritarianism. That's why they won't truck with Musk's blather, which reminds one of his privileged life under apartheid South Africa.

Here in America, we're experiencing a weird version of this nonsense with private institutions, parts of the MSM and such giving anyone who criticizes Israel a hard time.
So we have strange ideological bedfellows in Musk and the IPAC coerced/influenced folk.
And the band played on.

Since apartheid ended in S. Africa, the nation has been disintegrating into chaos. The government is unstable and the economy crashing. Crime has skyrocketed, and murders have shot through the roof, particularly murders of Whites in rural areas like farmers.

Why South Africa Is on the Brink of Chaos

Corruption, government incompetence and policy paralysis risk turning Africa’s most-industrialized nation into a failing state, leaving the ANC struggling to hang on to power

www.bloomberg.com

How ‘equity’ ideology plunged South Africa into inequality and chaos

Van Wyksdorp, South Africa – As South Africa erupted into chaos, my thoughts turned to the United States — a great country brought low by the same toxic and demented racial politics that set …

nypost.com

South Africa stands on the brink of salvation—or catastrophe

To prevent a coalition of chaos, Cyril Ramaphosa and the Democratic Alliance must do a deal

www.economist.com

More than 1,700 arrested in wake of South Africa violence

The arrests come as 72 people are killed in six days of rioting and looting following former President Zuma’s jailing.

www.aljazeera.com

‘We lost everything’: Despair grows in South Africa after unrest

Community members left reeling after days of violence and looting caused rampant destruction and more than 200 deaths.

www.aljazeera.com

Opinion | South Africa Is Falling Apart (Published 2021)

The deep rot of the country’s social and political order is now on full display.

www.nytimes.com

Maybe, unlike you, Musk is onto something. In the US, many--not all but many--of the worst run, most crime ridden, failing, and economically depressed cities are run by Black governments and heavily populated by Blacks. That doesn't necessarily mean there's a correlation there, but the evidence--THE FACTS--strongly suggest one, and that isn't some racist thing, it's observable, measurable, fact.

Interestingly, before complete desegregation was forced on American society, there were numerous Black majority or even all-Black towns and small cities that were doing quite well for themselves. These have since gone under with the rise of the welfare state, desegregation, and increasing government interference in the name of "equality." Maybe government should have helped less and let things work themselves out on a more local level.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Freedom of speech is freedom to voice one's opinion. Period.

Nonsense! Then you have no exchange of ideas.

 

[Taichiliberal]

So on one hand you want to censor speech you consider hateful and on the other hand you want zero consequences for speech others consider hateful. Both sides need to understand what free speech is.

Wrong! Get familiar with the legal aspects of slander,
defamation of character, incite to riot, disturbing the peace, etc.

 

[Taichiliberal]

"Free Speech" has nothing to do with access to somebody else's forum.

Free Speech means that you don't get arrested for what you say or write on your own forum.
If I purchased this website and decided to ban all non-Democratic Socialists,
which, of course, I would most likely do,
that would not be an infringement of free speech.

But if you used the site to slander and defame said group you would be held libel.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

But if you used the site to slander and defame said group you would be held libel.

Theoretically, yes.

In the post Trump 45th administration,
what happens in the judicial system is a total crap shoot.

 

[Knuckles Neanderthal]

Any book fanclub that thinks it's above criticism is a religion that should be heckled

Classic

Nonsense! Then you have no exchange of ideas.

Classic D-Rat.

 

[Knuckles Neanderthal]

Wrong! Get familiar with the legal aspects of slander,
defamation of character, incite to riot, disturbing the peace, etc.

Fong goule.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

what's hilarious is how trump was a favorite of those on the left, until he ran as a republican.......

what's even more hilarious is how musk was a favorite of those on the left, until he bought twitter and championed free speech.

once those things happened, they suddenly became white supremacists

 

[Taichiliberal]

Since apartheid ended in S. Africa, the nation has been disintegrating into chaos. The government is unstable and the economy crashing. Crime has skyrocketed, and murders have shot through the roof, particularly murders of Whites in rural areas like farmers.

Why South Africa Is on the Brink of Chaos

Corruption, government incompetence and policy paralysis risk turning Africa’s most-industrialized nation into a failing state, leaving the ANC struggling to hang on to power

www.bloomberg.com

How ‘equity’ ideology plunged South Africa into inequality and chaos

Van Wyksdorp, South Africa – As South Africa erupted into chaos, my thoughts turned to the United States — a great country brought low by the same toxic and demented racial politics that set …

nypost.com

South Africa stands on the brink of salvation—or catastrophe

To prevent a coalition of chaos, Cyril Ramaphosa and the Democratic Alliance must do a deal

www.economist.com

More than 1,700 arrested in wake of South Africa violence

The arrests come as 72 people are killed in six days of rioting and looting following former President Zuma’s jailing.

www.aljazeera.com

‘We lost everything’: Despair grows in South Africa after unrest

Community members left reeling after days of violence and looting caused rampant destruction and more than 200 deaths.

www.aljazeera.com

Opinion | South Africa Is Falling Apart (Published 2021)

The deep rot of the country’s social and political order is now on full display.

www.nytimes.com

Maybe, unlike you, Musk is onto something. In the US, many--not all but many--of the worst run, most crime ridden, failing, and economically depressed cities are run by Black governments and heavily populated by Blacks. That doesn't necessarily mean there's a correlation there, but the evidence--THE FACTS--strongly suggest one, and that isn't some racist thing, it's observable, measurable, fact.

Interestingly, before complete desegregation was forced on American society, there were numerous Black majority or even all-Black towns and small cities that were doing quite well for themselves. These have since gone under with the rise of the welfare state, desegregation, and increasing government interference in the name of "equality." Maybe government should have helped less and let things work themselves out on a more local level.

America barely avoided economic depression twice in the last 40 years, historically enforced segregation then destroyed successful black townships. The EU was/is a hot mess, Russia & Ukraine are still at it, and the DOJ and FBI still have folk like you topping the charts for rape, sexual and domestic abuse. Jan. 6th and some mass shootings linked to vile posts and speeches.

S0 you and Musk can shove it.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Theoretically, yes.

In the post Trump 45th administration,
what happens in the judicial system is a total crap shoot.

Its a hot mess thanks to the maga GOP and Dump
.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Fong goule.

so you're a maga troll of which I don't feed.

 

[LichGold]

what's hilarious is how trump was a favorite of those on the left, until he ran as a republican.......

what's even more hilarious is how musk was a favorite of those on the left, until he bought twitter and championed free speech.

once those things happened, they suddenly became white supremacists

Would anyone put it past white supremecists to be extra white supremecists?

Are they criticizing trump and elon for being white supremecists or are they criticizing them for not being white supremecists enough.

It was robert byrd here that passed the nam draft and the loopholes that only sent black kids. Meanwhile, "dead nigger coffins" anyone?

We are talking about the left who gives no shits about little brown bacha bazis getting butt pirated for cheap dope

 

[LichGold]

Black communities are overwhelmingly anti homosexual. Not only because pederasts are disgusting but also that homo's are a literal international gang in every prison world wide.

Would dixiecrats team up with homos? Im not sure at all they weren't the same thing all along.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

America barely avoided economic depression twice in the last 40 years, historically enforced segregation then destroyed successful black townships. The EU was/is a hot mess, Russia & Ukraine are still at it, and the DOJ and FBI still have folk like you topping the charts for rape, sexual and domestic abuse. Jan. 6th and some mass shootings linked to vile posts and speeches.

S0 you and Musk can shove it.

Wrong. Desegregation and the rise of the welfare state destroyed Black communities. The EU is a "hot mess" as you say in large part because of their massive welfare state.

 

[Truth Detector]

I just read a post on "X" (formerly Twitter), that warned "white women" of what is to come with a multicultural society. It had a picture of the face of a panicked white woman being strong armed by a black hand over her mouth.

Then you have the plethora of Musk whining about being banned in various countries as a violation of "freedom of speech"

I've said it before and I'll say it again; you have freedom of speech, but that does not make you immune from the consequences of said speech.

The Neo-Nazi/White Supremacist rhetoric that Musk let's fly on his site is something that other countries around the world know all too well what can result of such. Countries like Germany or France or various South American, Asian, Nordic, African countries who had REAL bouts with fascism, Nazi-ism and authoritarianism. That's why they won't truck with Musk's blather, which reminds one of his privileged life under apartheid South Africa.

Here in America, we're experiencing a weird version of this nonsense with private institutions, parts of the MSM and such giving anyone who criticizes Israel a hard time.
So we have strange ideological bedfellows in Musk and the IPAC coerced/influenced folk.
And the band played on.

...a post on X....

 

[Truth Detector]

Freedom of speech is much like it has always been. When your project 2025 gets used, it WILL all change.

Obviously, you haven't read the project and merely parrot the incredibly stupid and ignorant dogma MSNBC feed you.

You're the perfect Democrat voter. Stupid, uneducated, ignorant, uninformed and gullible.