From a friend on FB, re ACA

Your house is not on fire today, so, will you cancel your homeowners policy?

In my experience to get a mortgage you have to have property insurance. It's not an option so your example doesn't really work.
 
Not really. I mean, maybe won't be unlucky and the amount that you set aside will cover your expenses, but you get insurance to protect against the unforseen. Like, maybe you wake up tomorrow with blurry vision and it turns out you have MS. Did you save enough for that?

That's my opportunity cost right? I can rationally lay out a budget with expected odds of certain scenario's that may play out including those beyond my control such as what you mentioned. With that information in hand I can make what I feel is the decision in my best interest. Yes there is still risk but one I feel is worth taking.
 
BTW do you have any Idea how many NEW customers this is creating for the insurance cos?

Not as many as you think, many of the "invincibles" that would be necessary to get this to even remotely work aren't signing up because the tax for not having it (must call it a tax, fine is unconstitutional "tax" is constitutional) is much cheaper than their premiums would be under the act. (Designed to fail, it is, young Padawan).
 
Over 50% of americans don't want Obamacare. It was passed in a shady way, and people are doing their best to tell their reps to get rid of it. The people who passed this law are going to start worrying as voters/people see what it's all about.

Did you see the Jimmy Kimmel clip, he asked people on the street if they preferred the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare, they said the Affordable Care Act.

There is a lot of misconception about this law.
 
Do you think some people care about their credit, lol, especially those using the emergency room for healthcare?

If you can afford to pay your medical out of pocket, then you can afford to pay the fine ;)

Well said!

But there aren't that many of us that can shell out $100,000 or more for back surgery or other major operations. If you can - then sure, pay the fine; you don't have to join.
 
That's my opportunity cost right? I can rationally lay out a budget with expected odds of certain scenario's that may play out including those beyond my control such as what you mentioned. With that information in hand I can make what I feel is the decision in my best interest. Yes there is still risk but one I feel is worth taking.

Yes, it's possible to rationalize being irresponsible as being the right thing to do.
 
Always? So if you force a serial killer to stop killing, that's tyranny?
You're not stupid. Why would you compare a true crime that has a victim, with a non victimizing free person being forced to do something they don't want to do?

People have the right to not be victimized. Your comparison says the gov't has the right to victimize people.
 
States can still set their own limits. They just have to meet or beat the Afordable Care Acts standards, but you knew this.

Historically the average profit margin for insurance companies is around 5-7%. (I am being generous)

Obama and the other idiots in DC knew this. But they also know that the public doesn't know it and thus they could sound like they were doing something by setting a number. In no way did they set the limits to 20% as PMP stated... he was incorrect in his comment.
 
Not as many as you think, many of the "invincibles" that would be necessary to get this to even remotely work aren't signing up because the tax for not having it (must call it a tax, fine is unconstitutional "tax" is constitutional) is much cheaper than their premiums would be under the act. (Designed to fail, it is, young Padawan).


Um, sign-up have been open for about 36 hours now. I think it's probably a bit premature to declare what people are going to do and whether they'll elect to pay the tax or purchase health insurance.
 
Did you see the Jimmy Kimmel clip, he asked people on the street if they preferred the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare, they said the Affordable Care Act.

There is a lot of misconception about this law.

Or could it be that there are just stupid people out there and they are the ones that end up getting aired so that a certain comedian can mock them?
 
Did you see the Jimmy Kimmel clip, he asked people on the street if they preferred the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare, they said the Affordable Care Act.

There is a lot of misconception about this law.
Yes! That was so funny!

True, and many will be getting educated in the next 12+ months.
 
Um, sign-up have been open for about 36 hours now. I think it's probably a bit premature to declare what people are going to do and whether they'll elect to pay the tax or purchase health insurance.

I was going by what they were actually saying in interviews on the tube, but hey, you can tell me how premature that is because they must not know what they've done; they made decisions and talked about it, Dung.
 
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