Giuliani: Ease Burdens on Business

[cawacko]

I am sick and tired of these burdens on big business! Why can't we be free to work like this (below) here? I think that this says it all:

I'm sorry you are sick of it Darla but it is fact. And your example of working in 100 degree furnices is an apples and oranges argument because S-O is about financial reporting, it is not about regulating working conditions in furnices.

You and Cypress (especially) want to present our position as one of wanting anarchy where there is no government and no regulation period. That is not the case.

But regulations (and over regulations) are very real and have a very real impact.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

Also, blaming minimum wage laws for outsourcing is fucking ridiculous. McDonald's isn't moving counter help overseas. manufacturing jobs, that generally pay 3 to 4 dollars an hour MORE than the minimum wage, are the ones that are moving.

Read what you just wrote.... manufacturing jobs that generally pay 3 to 4 dollars more than minimum wage are moving...

Tell me, when minimum wage is increased, do those employees who were earning 3 to 4 dollars an hour more than minimum accept their current pay or do they tend to demand that they maintain wages 3 to 4 dollars above the new minimum wage?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

I'm sorry you are sick of it Darla but it is fact. And your example of working in 100 degree furnices is an apples and oranges argument because S-O is about financial reporting, it is not about regulating working conditions in furnices.

Exactly, that's why it's disingenous to discuss S-O when their real reasons for outsourcing are the savings they can reap from slave wage salaries, totalitarian whipmasters, and substandard working conditions.

 

[cawacko]

Exactly, that's why it's disingenous to discuss S-O when their real reasons for outsourcing are the savings they can reap from slave wage salaries, totalitarian whipmasters, and substandard working conditions.

S-O doesn't really have anything to do with outsourcing. It ramifications could be offshoring which is companies actually moving headquarters overseas.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

S-O doesn't really have anything to do with outsourcing. It ramifications could be offshoring which is companies actually moving headquarters overseas.

SO it DOES have something to do with outsourcing. It's RAMIFICATIONS are ousourcing but it is not related to outsourcing? IS that your final answer?

 

[cawacko]

SO it DOES have something to do with outsourcing. It's RAMIFICATIONS are ousourcing but it is not related to outsourcing? IS that your final answer?

I never said anything about S-O and outsourcing. Go back and look at my initial post. I said the ramifications of S-O are companies looking at moving Corporate HQ overseas along with the negative effect it has on productivity etc.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

I never said anything about S-O and outsourcing. Go back and look at my initial post. I said the ramifications of S-O are companies looking at moving Corporate HQ overseas along with the negative effect it has on productivity etc.

So their outsourcing the executive level. That's really bad.

 

[cawacko]

So their outsourcing the executive level. That's really bad.

We're playing semantics now but they are not outsourcing the executive level. Outsourcing is taking a job in Place A and sending it to a different person in Place B. Moving a HQ out of the U.S. to another country is offshoring. The companies are not talking about replacing excutives with executives in another country.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

We're playing semantics now but they are not outsourcing the executive level. Outsourcing is taking a job in Place A and sending it to a different person in Place B. Moving a HQ out of the U.S. to another country is offshoring. The companies are not talking about replacing excutives with executives in another country.

Never creating the job here in the first place is just as bad as moving it overseas. YOU'RE playing semantics.

 

[cawacko]

Never creating the job here in the first place is just as bad as moving it overseas. YOU'RE playing semantics.

What does not creating a job here in the first place have to do with anything? I guess I'm not following your line of thinking. We were talking about the burdens our government places on businesses, such as S-O, as the resulting effects it has.

 

[Battleborne]

Just curious.............

What does not creating a job here in the first place have to do with anything? I guess I'm not following your line of thinking. We were talking about the burdens our government places on businesses, such as S-O, as the resulting effects it has.

asshat had a good point...so does your friend that owns 'Girls Gone Wild' outsource the girls to a third world country...or just give T-shirts to the local bimbos for showing all...curious minds want to know!

 

[cawacko]

asshat had a good point...so does your friend that owns 'Girls Gone Wild' outsource the girls to a third world country...or just give T-shirts to the local bimbos for showing all...curious minds want to know!

My boy is sitting in jail in Reno, CA so he's not doing much of anything. No, to my knowledge they have not expanded operations to outside the U.S. though that would be the logical next step in their growth.

 

[Battleborne]

My boy is sitting in jail in Reno, NV so he's not doing much of anything. No, to my knowledge they have not expanded operations to outside the U.S. though that would be the logical next step in their growth.

There I fixed it for you...so he wants to join the party and out-source...this is sad...then again...I suppose it depends on who produces the T-shirts that they pay for a glimps of the ladies naked bods...!

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

What does not creating a job here in the first place have to do with anything? I guess I'm not following your line of thinking. We were talking about the burdens our government places on businesses, such as S-O, as the resulting effects it has.

It's just as bad if not worse than outsourcing, yet you're trying to leave it out of the discussion.

 

[cawacko]

There I fixed it for you...so he wants to join the party and out-source...this is sad...then again...I suppose it depends on who produces the T-shirts that they pay for a glimps of the ladies naked bods...!

I didn't say he was outsourcing. All their work is being done in the U.S. Are you suggesting they should not be allowed to set up operations overseas in the future to allow their company to grow and expand into new markets?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

But more importantly the point is that there ARE OTHER REASONS besides Sorbanes Oxley that companies offshore and outsource, namely the savings of slave labor and substandard working conditions which can reaped in an environment of tyranny and corruption.

 

[cawacko]

It's just as bad if not worse than outsourcing, yet you're trying to leave it out of the discussion.

I apologize and I'm not trying to be difficult I am just not following what you are trying to say. What is worse than outsourcing? I don't think you've made reference to the regulatory burden created by our government.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

I apologize and I'm not trying to be difficult I am just not following what you are trying to say. What is worse than outsourcing? I don't think you've made reference to the regulatory burden created by our government.

Offshoring is just as bad as outsourcing. Got that? What's with you, blockhead. Learn to think.

I've properly placed the "regulatory burden" of Sobanes Oxley in the hierarchy of causative actual reasons for outsourcing and offshoring. It's second to the reasons of cheaper labor and corrupt foreign governments willing to enslave their people for a quick buck and enabling western world traitorous globalists to dominate market share, consolidate power, and put political foes out of work, with the cost savings barbarity allows.

 

[Cancel7]

hahhahaha. I am really enjoying this, sorry Cawacko.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

hahhahaha. I am really enjoying this, sorry Cawacko.

See, Cawacko? She's laughing at you, cuz you're all confused or something.