God is not intelligent, or, why I am a pantheist

[Lao Tse]

If you understood the thread, Fredo, you would know.

It depends. There are kids in shit hole nations happily playing in mud puddles because they don't know any better. The main reason for the Arab Spring was Internet Cafes which provided a window to the world. They saw what they had and what others had so they wanted something better. In Buddhism, the Four Noble Truths deal with desire and wanting. A person can't want what they don't know exists. The whole concept behind "ignorance is bliss".

there's nothing wrong with playing in a mud puddle.
I'm talking about all the violence and crime.

I think people know it's not ideal.

just like people know up from down even if a white man didn't show them.

your theories border on all kinds of racism.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

there's nothing wrong with playing in a mud puddle.
I'm talking about all the violence and crime.

I think people know it's not ideal.

Violence has always existed among human beings. For one thing, it's part of nature. For another, humans are just really intelligent animals. Intelligent, but still animals. Some more animal than others. Crime is a legal definition. Killing, raping and stealing have existed long before there were laws.

In order to know they have to learn there is something better. Consider why some men prefer virgin wives. A virgin doesn't know how lousy the sex is with her man. The only way she'd know is to have something to compare it to, meaning having sex with a variety of men. Wanting requires knowledge that other options exist.

 

[Lao Tse]

Violence has always existed among human beings. For one thing, it's part of nature. For another, humans are just really intelligent animals. Intelligent, but still animals. Some more animal than others. Crime is a legal definition. Killing, raping and stealing have existed long before there were laws.

In order to know they have to learn there is something better. Consider why some men prefer virgin wives. A virgin doesn't know how lousy the sex is with her man. The only way she'd know is to have something to compare it to, meaning having sex with a variety of men. Wanting requires knowledge of that other things exist.

but there has always been places where violence would not be acceptable, even with in "violent" societies.

peace is also part of nature.

it's like you missed the whole thread.

morality is cooperation and peace and is rational.

your faux moral superiority over the "non whites" is imerialist and repulsive.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

but there has always been places where violence would not be acceptable, even with in "violent" societies.

peace is also part of nature.

it's like you missed the whole thread.

morality is cooperation and peace and is rational.

your faux moral superiority over the "non whites" is imerialist and repulsive.

By mutual consent, not by genetics or other innate knowledge.

Not for long.

Disagreed.

Nice fantasy.

A not so nice fantasy but I understand why you believe it.