I find it impossible to have a meaningful discussion with trolls which many seem to be.
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I find it impossible to have a meaningful discussion with trolls which many seem to be.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hi moose,
There's no point in doing that. Your mind is made up. You'd only look for ways to pick it apart. And if you couldn't find any you'd be happy to go right into whataboutism or ad hominems.
Best case is we take aggressive action pronto and none of that happens. If we wait for the 'I told you so moment' it will be too late to undo it. That is why we have to act now.
There's no point in doing that. Your mind is made up. You'd only look for ways to pick it apart. And if you couldn't find any you'd be happy to go right into whataboutism or ad hominems.
Best case is we take aggressive action pronto and none of that happens. If we wait for the 'I told you so moment' it will be too late to undo it. That is why we have to act now.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
Actually it's not. If you knew my history on boards you'd know that once I see one, just one peer reviewed published study with the conclusion that GW is caused by humans I'd be 100% convinced. That's not asking much.
A mind reader. One of the defining characteristics of a prog.
Gosh how many times have i heard that over the yrs.?
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello and welcome back flighty,
Yeah, that's all over the internet. Which site did you find it at? Denial.com?
It is already happening. We will do what we need to with or without your help. And the shame is that when the concerned people of the world do mount a serious effort and the worst of the predictions are abated you deniers will then claim none of it was needed. And that's fine. We'll pull our load, foot draggers and all. Don't bother thanking us, we already know you won't so no big deal. We could sure use it but we don't need your help; or your thanks.
Yeah, that's all over the internet. Which site did you find it at? Denial.com?
It is already happening. We will do what we need to with or without your help. And the shame is that when the concerned people of the world do mount a serious effort and the worst of the predictions are abated you deniers will then claim none of it was needed. And that's fine. We'll pull our load, foot draggers and all. Don't bother thanking us, we already know you won't so no big deal. We could sure use it but we don't need your help; or your thanks.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Cinnabar,
Oh, that's for sure. Easy solution. Ignore the trolls.
What is the point in pretending to have a nice conversation with somebody you know is going to be mean to you? That's like there is a button on the wall that says: "Push to be insulted," and you can't resist pushing it. I see no point in that.
Another note:
It is ludicrous to expect to be treated well by others if you don't do what you are asking for.
Oh, that's for sure. Easy solution. Ignore the trolls.
What is the point in pretending to have a nice conversation with somebody you know is going to be mean to you? That's like there is a button on the wall that says: "Push to be insulted," and you can't resist pushing it. I see no point in that.
Another note:
It is ludicrous to expect to be treated well by others if you don't do what you are asking for.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hi moose,
But only if somebody else finds that for you? Your quest for knowledge is underwhelming.
It's asking me to do your homework.
More stereotyping. All 'progs' are exactly alike. Talk to one, you've spoken to every one of them. They are all interchangeable. They all lead exactly the same lives, have exactly the same education, all had the same teachers, interests, motivations and experiences. They all married the same spouse and have exactly the same children. They all live in the same neighborhood, drive the same car, and have the same kids. They were all born on the same day, went to the same school. All the rumors about them are true. Only conservatives are unique individuals with independent thinking. Conservatives are always right and 'progs' are always wrong. Did I leave anything out?
I think you only hear what you want to hear.
But only if somebody else finds that for you? Your quest for knowledge is underwhelming.
It's asking me to do your homework.
More stereotyping. All 'progs' are exactly alike. Talk to one, you've spoken to every one of them. They are all interchangeable. They all lead exactly the same lives, have exactly the same education, all had the same teachers, interests, motivations and experiences. They all married the same spouse and have exactly the same children. They all live in the same neighborhood, drive the same car, and have the same kids. They were all born on the same day, went to the same school. All the rumors about them are true. Only conservatives are unique individuals with independent thinking. Conservatives are always right and 'progs' are always wrong. Did I leave anything out?
I think you only hear what you want to hear.
I don't see any links, and I know the word games you Deniers play. All your information comes from blogs.
You welcome to post a body of peer reviewed scientific literature that says global warming is not happening, its nothing to worry about, and it is physically impossible based on the laws of thermodynamics.
And why don't you present your findings at a reputable science conference with professional climate scientists? You should be prepared to get laughed out of the room.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Cypress,
Good one.
And the nusto thing which is NEVER addressed is (They wouldn't DARE touch this one) :
Basic wisdom says if you are not sure about some possible danger you prepare for the worst possible case and hope for the best.
In the case of Climate Change that would mean we take all the aggressive steps being recommended and then hope it was all for naught.
There IS NO WISDOM that says you assume the best case and don't prepare for anything.
Nobody has EVER had a good reply to that one.
Good one.
And the nusto thing which is NEVER addressed is (They wouldn't DARE touch this one) :
Basic wisdom says if you are not sure about some possible danger you prepare for the worst possible case and hope for the best.
In the case of Climate Change that would mean we take all the aggressive steps being recommended and then hope it was all for naught.
There IS NO WISDOM that says you assume the best case and don't prepare for anything.
Nobody has EVER had a good reply to that one.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Worst case thinking in the case of an approaching hurricane:
Make all recommended preparations for a terrible storm and then evacuate. That's the wise thing to do.
Best case thinking would be assume it won't hit you and do nothing.
That would be the denier thing to do.
Make all recommended preparations for a terrible storm and then evacuate. That's the wise thing to do.
Best case thinking would be assume it won't hit you and do nothing.
That would be the denier thing to do.
If you want to deny global warming, you are going to have to do much better.
The claims and assertions of obscure message board posters with no training in climate science carries no weight. None. Nada. Zilch.
I need to see what reputable, trained experts have to say about your claims.
Link me up to a peer reviewed scientific article you published in a science journal, in which your claims passed the laugh test of professional peer review of subject matter experts.
The reason Climate Deniers never post a body of reputable peer reviewed scientific literature that debunks the human impact on climate is because - they can't. That body of peer reviewed literature does not exist.
That is why they are always reduced to making unsubstantiated claims, posting opinion articles, or relying on obscure blogs no one has ever heard of.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
https://arxiv.org/abs/0707.1161
That's not a blog.
I'd probably not find something to that effect , same as you will not find one with the conclusion GW is man made.
Now that would be laughable to publish something as subjective as "worry" in a scientific paper.
https://arxiv.org/abs/0707.1161 I posted one. Can you provide a link with the conclusion that man has caused GW? I'll settle for one.
Because I have better things to do with my time than go to reputable science conference with professional climate scientists. Plus I wouldn't get any needed CE credit from those. Why doesn't a reputable science conference with professional climate scientists present one study with the conclusion that man has caused GW?
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
I've done my homework several times over the yrs. I couldn't find anything. Now it's your turn. I'll wait. I'm very patient.
Article from a over decade ago that has been debunked.
Gerlich's views have been refuted many times
https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/abs/10.1142/S021797921005555X
^^^Not a single link to a body of peer reviewed literature debunking the human impact on global climate change.
Not one, single solitary reference to a prestigious scientific organization with expertise in climate science.
You really are just firing blanks, aren't you??
I cannot waste anymore time on a dunce who thinks global warming is not happening.
deadcatbounce
Verified User
How has it affected where you live?
It's always amusing when so-called adults try to pretend that young ppl are not intelligent, aware, and able to make up their own minds about "brainwashing" -- you know, like the brainwashing our Reichwing friends receive every day from Twittler, Fox, Rush, Hannity, et al. Any moment now, my favorite Klingon will be along to dogpile on Ms. Thunberg because she's "so confused."
So rap music and sagging pants and hair buns on men is the new groovy fad?
Rock and roll is dead but auto-tune is the new Mozart!
Its funny that when asked for a body of peer reviewed science and the findings of prestigious scientific organizations that support your Denier claims, the absolute best you can do is fish out an article written 12 years ago in 2007 by an obscure chemist in Germany, and which you undoubtedly found via a rightwing blog. the fact that you rightwingers cling with a death grip to a 12 year old article is a sign of abject weakness. That 12 year old article has been debunked many times in the ensuing years.
Your attempt does not even qualify as weak and tepid. It actually qualifies as willfully dishonest and disingenuous.
I would not have to time travel back 12 years to find a single, solitary article to support the conclusion that humans are impacting the climate. There have probably been hundreds of peer reviewed articles written about it in the last 24 months.
deadcatbounce
Verified User
Yeah, yeah,yeah, that is fucking great. How has climate change affected where you live asshole?
Terri4Trump
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saltydancin
Verified User
As if reputable science for entropy within the laws of thermodynamics is physically impossible to accelerate. That's about as absurd as Byrd's KKK churchstate fiefdom West Nazi Germany Virginia Nazi economics of thieving US Constitution - old glory - old testament - absentee voting ballot arsonists being only federal sin & those burning Bush's 9/11 Al Qaeda "death to the infidels" flying carpet terrorists healthcare plan killing thousands before millions. Nazi environmental suicidal pseudoscience ought to have an easy time of explaining to their offspring how & why they have killed them like the billions of birds the USA no longer has.