Greta Thunberg

[PoliTalker]

Hello dukkha,

good.glad to hear it

energy independence,millions of jobs in the energy field, a misguided trillions of dollars spent on Green New Deal and wrecking our economy is the "loss"

OK, so let's weigh those consequences out.

On one hand we have the habitability of the world...

And on the other hand we have some money.

Which is more important?

Well, money is VERY important to a lot of people, that's for sure. We know that. But then we have to ask what good money is without a world?

Hmmmm.

That's a toughie.

I'm gonna have to go with the world.

The world is more important than money.

Just logic speaking.

 

[anonymoose]

Hello anonymoose,



She is wise beyond her years.

She is definitely clinically depressed.

And I don't blame her one bit.

Neither me. I would be too is I believed my dreams and my childhood were stolen.

Who wants to be brought into a world bent on self-destruction?

Life is hard. Always has been. War is hell.

Anybody who is knowledgeable understands the 12 year timeframe was not until apocalypse. That is the estimated remaining time we have to turn our emissions around. The worst effects of climate change won't happen for a long time after that, because there is a delayed reaction.

When is the estimated time of the coming Apocalypse if we don't stop farting cows and air travel within 12 yrs.?

You can't post any credible sources for science saying the end of the world happens in 2030.

Of course not. It won't happen. Some kids believe that though.

If you had it, you would have posted it.

You better believe it.

And there is a hidden message here.

Since you can't even correctly quote what you are in denial of, that indicates there is a BS factor in your argument.

I can't directly quote what I'm in denial of because I don't even know what I'm in denial of.

If you really had a good argument,

this child is clinically depressed, is my arguement.

you would not have to make things up about the opposing view. If your position was really superior all you would have to do to win the argument would be to clearly and succinctly state your 'invincible overwhelming position.'

I did. I'll do it again:

"You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words"

she's seriously depressed.

But you're not doing that. Instead you are making things up.

I copied and pasted that quote from her own twitter acct.

That says something about your position, and it ain't good.

Agreed. Childhood depression and child abuse are never good. this girl is in need of serious Cognitive therapy from a qualified child psychologist or psychiatrist followed by healthy after school activities such as sport and /or hobbies like learning a musical instrument.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Here's are a few questions that even Lord Moncton of England (climate change denier who advised the Queen at one point, I believe). couldn't answer honestly and logically: If you say that the crisis of climate change exasperated by mankind is a hoax, then are you saying that:


1. Nearly 2 centuries of increasing deforestation on a global scale has NO effect on climate, given that forests remove carbon dioxide from the air?
2. Nearly 2 centuries of increasing urbanization on a global scale has NO effect on climate, given that concrete and reflective glass enhances the heating index in it's area?
3. Nearly 2 centuries of increasing industrial pollution of our air, lakes, rivers and ocean on a global scale has NO effect on climate? enhances the heating index in it's area?
4. That all of the above coincide with the increase in global population of consumers?

Anyone here want to give it a try?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hi moose,

When is the estimated time of the coming Apocalypse if we don't stop farting cows and air travel within 12 yrs.?

There is no specific time. The effects increase gradually, becoming more pronounced over time.

this child is clinically depressed, is my arguement. I did. I'll do it again: she's seriously depressed. I copied and pasted that quote from her own twitter acct. Agreed. Childhood depression and child abuse are never good. this girl is in need of serious Cognitive therapy from a qualified child psychologist or psychiatrist followed by healthy after school activities such as sport and /or hobbies like learning a musical instrument.

OK, no, that is not an overwhelming argument. It has nothing to do with climate change. It's a deflection. You can't address the issue directly so you're trying to shift the argument to something else. You're welcome to believe anything you like, but you're not going to convince anybody who doesn't side with you already to change their mind.

But I appreciate your post. Thank you. It lets me know how you are able to justify your position. It's based on denial and deflection.

Makes me more comfortable with my own view to know that in order to go with the opposing view I would have to fool myself and reject wisdom and logic.

 

[Cypress]

Nonsense, the post was entirely accurate.

Libs are all about child abuse.

Convincing kids they have no future, due to "climate change".

Telling small children they can change their gender through surgical genital mutilation, and harmful synthetic hormones. Yeah, clearly that's abuse.

No normal person could conclude otherwise.

^^ This is what Climate Denial has come down to > impotent wailing and unsubstantiated claims that have nothing to do with the body of peer reviewed climate science published over the past three decades.

Moody’s Analytics says climate change could cost $69 trillion by 2100

The consulting firm Moody’s Analytics says climate change could inflict $69 trillion in damage on the global economy by the year 2100, assuming that warming hits the two-degree Celsius threshold widely seen as the limit to stem its most dire effects.

Moody’s, citing a report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, says that warming of 1.5 degrees Celsius, or 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit, increasingly seen by scientists as a climate-stabilizing limit, would still cause $54 trillion in damages by the end of the century.

The firm warns that passing the two-degree threshold “could hit tipping points for even larger and irreversible warming feedback loops such as permanent summer ice melt in the Arctic Ocean.”

The Moody’s report predicts that rising temperatures will “universally hurt worker health and productivity” and that more frequent extreme weather events “will increasingly disrupt and damage critical infrastructure and property.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/clim...fb94ac-99cb-11e9-916d-9c61607d8190_story.html

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Dumbest kid of the month...maybe of the entire decade.

agreed......but at least she's only 12........you're as dumb and you're an adult......

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

What are your grandchildren doing to "go green"?
How about the kids missing school at the "protest"? What's their contribution?

Aw, isn't that cute? The "teacher" is SOOOOO concerned about young ppl missing a few hours of school... Ignoring, of course, the very valid reasons why millions around the world attended the Climate Strike gatherings.... because science is too hard when you're just the lunch room lady.

There, I've given you your attention whore crumbs for the day. Now stagger off and go tend to your plastic basil plant. It's wilted. lol

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I can recall when they claimed Obama was "indoctrinating" kids because he gave a bacook to school pep talk.

yeah I remember that too.....

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Personal anecdotes are not going to change the science.

Interesting how personal anecdotes only matter when they come from someone who agrees with the speaker's POV. Ms. Thunberg's do not matter, apparently.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Thunberg- I dare to suggest- will achieve a doctorate well in advance of her years, will contribute extensively to academia, will front NGOs which will channel billions of dollars into the war against the extinction of many forms of life on earth and set up scholarships so that hundreds of thousands of other people can join the fight and emulate her.
She might even play guitar and become the female counterpart of Big Bob.

Nah- that's hoping for too much.

Haw, haw............................................haw.

she will be paid to testify that while in college a conservative SC candidate stuck his penis in her ear.........it will be discovered that not only did none of her friends believe her but that the candidate was actually a woman.....

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello dukkha,

I asked what you believe would be lost if we go ahead and take bold steps to reduce emissions. Your reply:

energy independence,millions of jobs in the energy field, a misguided trillions of dollars spent on Green New Deal and wrecking our economy is the "loss"

How does creating/capturing our own energy lead to a loss of energy independence? Shoot. Rooftop solar could lead to individuals being independent from big corporate energy.

I must have missed the part where anyone has shown that the GND would wreck the economy.

Care to provide a source for that?

I did notice where Bernie claims that if we use his plan that millions of great new union jobs would be created. That would have to be pretty good for the economy, to have all these people working, paying into the system, and spending in the economy.

 

[Controlled Opposition]

Hello dukkha,



Has it ever occurred to you that you might just be wrong about this whole thing?

Has it ever occurred to you that you might be wrong?

Adults use children to promote their causes because criticizing them make one appear to be a monster.

There are already solutions. There are scrubbers which remove CO2 directly from the air. As they become cheaper and smaller, we will probably have to be careful about removing too much CO2.

I recently planted another tree in my front yard. If we have to, the world can plant any number of them.

I've been thinking of this: If I had a young child and experts told me that he had 12 years before he would die, or become extremely ill, and then die, should I tell him, or let him enjoy his remaining time?

Btw. Your mask of civility is slipping.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

So is this young lady being "used"? Is she "confused"? Oh look, she's skipping school! Is she a brainwashed pawn? Or is she a sentient being with her own mind, concerns, and voice?

 

[Adolf_Twitler]

What are your grandchildren doing to "go green"?
How about the kids missing school at the "protest"? What's their contribution?

Well my son, daughter, and grand daughter are driving hybrids, and like a said before, they recycle everything in their garbage, and I helped my daughter xeriscape her house and installed all solar landscape lighting, helped my son install an inline tankless water heater at his house, and we all 3 have completely replaced all the lighting to LED at all our houses and businesses.

My son has a part-time business where he purchases pallets of company computers, and scraps all the parts. So he don't just do it for fun, he makes good money doing it. He just sold a small handful of gold to a diamond/gold buyer for $4500 just last month.

So, we are into it. Looking for even more ways to save and make money.

When you get into it, it gets in your blood. It's fun!

 

[dukkha]

I recently planted another tree in my front yard. If we have to, the world can plant any number of them.

 

[anonymoose]

Hi moose,



There is no specific time. The effects increase gradually, becoming more pronounced over time.

But it will happen if we don't stop [farting cows, air travel, etc.] within 12 yrs. if we fail to do this in 12 yrs. can we finally focus on other excuses to promote global socialism?

OK, no, that is not an overwhelming argument.

It is my opinion as a health care provider. I'm no psychologist but I've taken classes to recognize signs of depression and child abuse, so it is my professional opinion based on her saying ""You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words".

It has nothing to do with climate change.

Not directly. The child abusers used "climate change" as a tool to brainwash her leading to her depression.

It's a deflection.

From what?

You can't address the issue directly so you're trying to shift the argument to something else.

Geez, how many times do I have to say the issue is this child's obvious depression?

You're welcome to believe anything you like, but you're not going to convince anybody who doesn't side with you already to change their mind.

I know. I've never seen anybody convince anybody of changing their mind on these forums.

But I appreciate your post. Thank you. It lets me know how you are able to justify your position. It's based on denial and deflection.

Makes me more comfortable with my own view to know that in order to go with the opposing view I would have to fool myself and reject wisdom and logic.

Logic tells me this child is depressed. she believes her dreams and childhood have been stolen from her because of somebody's (whose?) empty words.

 

[anonymoose]

Btw. Your mask of civility is slipping.

I recognized him as passive aggressive a while back.

 

[Darth Omar]

I listened to this poor girl on NPR this. a.m.
Sad what the climate hoaxers have done in brainwashing these kids.
They should be taken away from their parents for child abuse.
And the U.N. gives her a podium and actually listens to this crap pretending to take her seriously for the advancement of Agenda 21.



Kids in S.F. think we have only 12 yrs. left before the End of Days Apocalypse.

So glad I raised well adjusted kids.

There’s a danger in this business of indoctrinating kids with this stuff.

If one thinks doom is eminent ‘unless something is done’ *everything* is on the table. What the AGW cultists are doing is providing fertile ground for extremism and eco-terrorism.

We should have a pretty crop of eco-terrorists in the next 8-10 years by the looks of it.

 

[anonymoose]

There’s a danger in this business of indoctrinating kids with this stuff.

If one thinks doom is eminent ‘unless something is done’ *everything* is on the table. What the AGW cultists are doing is providing fertile ground for extremism and eco-terrorism.

We should have a pretty crop of eco-terrorists in the next 8-10 years by the looks of it.

What's really sickening is the U.N. using a clinically depressed child for the purpose of promoting their Agenda.

 

[Bigdog]

What's really sickening is the U.N. using a clinically depressed child for the purpose of promoting their Agenda.

I saw a clip of her claiming this is "mass extinction". She was acting terrified.

How could parents do this to a child? She should be removed from their custody.